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Harnessing Your Obsessions: The Key to Business Growth

What if the very challenges that seem to block your path are actually the key to business growth? In this enlightening episode, I sit down with Dr. Emilio Justo, a renowned ophthalmologist, cosmetic surgeon, bestselling author, and two-time TEDx speaker, to explore his powerful “Cuban Triad” for achieving your dreams.

Show Notes | Transcript

“I think of obsession as a very positive thing. Think of it like a focused energy that lights a spiritual fire inside of us to pursue our goals with love and commitment.” – Dr. Emilio Justo

Dr. Justo shares his inspiring journey from Cuban refugee to successful surgeon, revealing how self-discipline, resilience, and delayed gratification became the cornerstones of his success. We dive deep into the concept of productive obsession and how it can fuel your passion and purpose in both business and life.

Discover how to:

  • Harness the power of productive obsession to achieve your goals
  • Develop self-discipline as an act of devotion to your vision
  • Cultivate resilience by viewing setbacks as opportunities for growth
  • Practice delayed gratification for long-term success

Key insights include:

  • The importance of celebrating small milestones along your journey
  • How to take calculated risks that propel you forward
  • Why lack of privilege is not an obstacle to achieving your dreams
  • The critical role of self-education in today’s rapidly changing world

Dr. Justo also addresses the challenges of balancing professional success with personal relationships and shares his ongoing quest to be a better husband, father, and human being.

Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur or a seasoned business owner, this conversation offers a fresh perspective on achieving success without sacrificing your values or well-being. Tune in to learn how you can apply the Cuban Triad to your own life and business, and start turning your obstacles into opportunities for growth and fulfillment.

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Gloria Grace Rand
Namaste. What if I told you that the very challenges that seem to block your path are actually your stepping stones to success? Well, today’s guest is going to reveal his proven formula that embraces productive obsession and delayed gratification for business triumph. But first, I do want to welcome all of you to Live Love Engage. Especially if this is your first time and you are new. I am Gloria Grace, and I help female entrepreneurs attract their ideal clients by going beyond traditional search engine optimization to embrace my definition of SEO, which is to spiritually engage others. And joining us in just a moment is Dr. Emilio Justo. He is a renowned ophthalmologist, cosmetic surgeon, bestselling author, and two time TEDx speaker. And his talks on today’s subject have actually amassed millions of views. So I, without further ado, I’m going to bring him right up here if I can get my mouse to work. And we’re going to welcome Dr. Emilio to live Love Engage.

Dr. Emilio Justo
Well, greetings to you, Grace. It’s such a delight to be with you and it’s such an honor and, and I love all the work that you’re doing and it’s really a privilege to be here. So thank you for the invitation.

Gloria Grace Rand
Oh, well, it’s my pleasure, believe me. And because when I first heard what you were all about and I thought this is really intriguing, I really want to know more, so let’s just dive right into it. I mentioned at the top you’ve got this formula for success that I know it has a particular name, so I wonder if you could share with us what that is and how it works.

Dr. Emilio Justo
Well, in simplistic terms, my so called formula, I don’t really call it a formula. I call it my Cuban triad, being a Cuban refugee to the United States. And that triad consists of number one, self discipline, number two, resilience and perseverance, and number three, delayed gratification. And then once you mix all those three together, then a little healthy dose of a healthy obsession can top it off. Just like a little topping off your ice cream with a cherry.

Gloria Grace Rand
Well, I love that. And as I mentioned, your TED talk does deal with this. I watched it where you talked about productive obsession. And so maybe you could start there because it does seem a little counterintuitive. You know, when you think of obsession, you know, you think of somebody stalking someone or you know, they’re obsessed with another person or they’re just, you know, addicted almost. So how. How can we make this more of a tool, I guess, for us instead?

Dr. Emilio Justo
Well, sure, Grace. Well, What I refer to obsession, I’m changing the paradigm. I’m not referring to a negative connotation that we commonly think of when we think of obsession as a psychiatric disease or an obsessive compulsive disorder. To the contrary, I think of obsession as a very positive thing. And when we are healthy in our obsession, we become passionate with purpose. And that passion helps us achieve our goals and dreams and aspirations in a much more direct, focused method. And so it’s like this. Think of it like a focused energy that lights a spiritual fire inside of us to pursue our goals with love and commitment and with laser like focus.

Gloria Grace Rand
Well, I, and I can see that. I mean, it does make sense because I know if I’m, if I’m really have a project that I’m working on and I do become laser focused on it, I, and I want to keep going on it until I get it done. So I can see that that is, I guess that probably would be the mark, I think, of a successful entrepreneur. You do have to have some of that, you know, real productive obsession with something. So how do you know though, if you are sort of practicing this healthy way of being obsessive versus maybe destructive perfectionism, let’s say.

Dr. Emilio Justo
Well, I think one of the ways is that we have to be able to use that obsession to not so much fixate on the achievement, but rather channel that passion, that purpose into something meaningful and impactful. And more importantly, we have to be able to find the joy in the journey, not simply the destination. And that’s where I think many of us unfortunately become fixated on the destination, on that ultimate goal. And instead not focusing on the journey and celebrating the small achievements and the milestones along the way, which is very, very important because celebrating those achievements and those milestones, we can then use that as fuel to then even further reinforce our passion and our obsession to continue climbing higher and higher. And after all, I think that really our entire life is a complete journey. I don’t think we really, really rarely ever reach that destination. We think we do and then get close to it. We have a new destination that we’re trying to achieve.

Gloria Grace Rand
Oh, absolutely, yeah. I mean, I’ve learned that just in my own spiritual development, for one thing, is that, you know, just when you think you got, yeah, you, like you said that you’ve reached that one thing, it’s like, okay, I’ve got it handled now. And then something else comes up and it’s like, okay, now I have to learn how to deal with this. So it’s like we’re, we’re never fixed. And I think that’s true even as a business owners as well, because there’s always something new that you want to be able to continue to improve and innovate and continue to create something that will keep that momentum going. So, yeah, that, that makes so much sense. I wonder how, how can you actually though, maintain this self discipline and. Because that’s really, I think what it is partly is, or. Well, actually, let’s, let’s go back a little bit because you do say that self discipline is part of this as well. So talk a little bit about that and what’s, what’s the importance of that?

Dr. Emilio Justo
Well, several fold. Number one, self discipline in my view is not just about controlling impulses. You know, it’s about aligning our actions with a higher purpose. And so by grounding ourselves in what really, truly matters, you know, self discipline becomes what I consider to be an act of devotion to our vision and not to be viewed as something restrictive. But in simple terms, grace, you know, self discipline and delayed gratification is really just resisting the urge and the temptation for that immediate reward in favor of a later, oftentimes greater reward.

Gloria Grace Rand
Well, yes, and that’s not always easy. It sounds good, but, you know, in this, this day and age of, you know, we, we do want, inst. We’re sort of been trained, I think, to want this instant gratification all the time. So how, how do you go about, you know, making that shift to be able to develop that self discipline.

Dr. Emilio Justo
By simple steps? We, we have to just practice. And, and I think if you just take each day and for example, tell yourself no to something that you want immediately that day. And, and the simple example would be, for example, if you go to the mall and you want to buy something, okay, you know, question to yourself, well, do you really need it? And then ponder it, you know, stop and think about it. Maybe give it a few days, give it a week. Quite often when we go back to that immediate pleasure that we wanted and we think about it, you know, a week later, quite often the urgency that we felt originally is no longer there, you know, so just being able to say no to ourselves, I think is important. Now, you’re correct. It’s easier said than done. But as the old expression goes, practice makes perfect. And so we just have to get out there and just start small. Start small with little steps so that you start subconsciously training your mind to pause. To pause. You know, patience is such an incredible virtue. And I think Perhaps maybe my third TEDx talk, which I haven’t written yet, but 20, 25, I want to do another one. You know, maybe that might be a good, a good topic because, you know, patience, I feel is not talked about enough. And it’s really, I think the key to most everything in life. We have to be patient.

Gloria Grace Rand
Yeah, absolutely. And, and I think it’s just become, I, it’s become so, I don’t know if that is, well, not necessarily difficult. I think maybe frankly we’re just become lazy and we’re so quick to, you know, now even we find ways to be able to keep ourselves from being bored. You know, if we’re waiting in line, we’re, you know, we’ve got our phones out and we’re scrolling through and whatever instead of just, you know, standing in line and just waiting and enjoy the moment.

Dr. Emilio Justo
I mean, yeah, you’re standing in line. I mean, I look around, I’m at the grocery store, I’m at Safeway, I’m standing in line all the time. And you know, I look around, I see who’s around me quite often. I’ll find somebody who seems interesting, maybe spark a conversation, you know, have a, have a discussion with someone. I mean, anything to trigger your mind and nourish your mind and your soul. And when you’re driving, for example, this is a story I talk about that where I wish I could go back. I don’t have many regrets in life, but this is a small one. And that is, you know, I, I, I became an advocate of audio books just maybe in the last five, six years. And I have almost a one hour commute, just one way back and forth to my office every day. And all this time I was wasting just listening to music, which is relaxing certainly. But then once I discovered audio books, boy, what an incredible way to nourish your mind, to educate yourself, right? And self education is key. That’s another aspect of life that, you know, my wife and I are trying to teach our three young children who are 13, 17 and 20. And as you can imagine, you know, teenagers, it’s difficult for them to understand as an adult the wisdom that we have to share. They think that they know it all. But yeah, I think just pause, look around you, be grateful, you know, have this, this feeling of gratitude. Grace, I mean, again, so underestimated and not talked about enough in my opinion. But man, we have so much in our life to be grateful for. And whether you’re a religious person or not, whether you’re just spiritual, doesn’t matter. I mean, we must have an attitude of gratitude for everything that the world has around us and the opportunities that we have. And lastly, Grace, if I can just. I’m sorry to dominate the conversation here, but I think another aspect of life that I like to talk about, which is not always talked about in my opinion enough, is being humble. Being humble, you know, humility, it’s so easy when we do achieve, right? Any of us, regardless of our profession, our career, our path in life, you know, we get to a point where we achieve and we think, wow, we’re, we’re so hot. We’re so great. You know, we’re, you know, God’s gift to humanity. No, every single one of us is God’s gift to humanity. And we have to understand that, that it doesn’t matter if you’re a surgeon like me or if you’re a steel worker like my father was back at US Steel in Gary, Indiana. We’re all part of God’s creatures here on Earth and, and we all are equal. And I think having that humility is extraordinarily powerful.

Gloria Grace Rand
Oh, yeah, I, I agree 100%. And there’s also, though, the other side of it too, because as entrepreneurs that sometimes we can be, we sort of err on the other side of it, or I would say at least heart centered entrepreneurs, people who are like really spiritually inclined, where we were sort of too humble. And we’re not putting ourselves out there, you know, we’re not really letting people know how we can support them, how we, what we have to offer. And so that, so you’ve got to strive for a good balance here of being able to, you know, don’t, don’t go crazy and over bragging about yourself, let’s say. But being able to still be out there and say, yeah, this is what I do, and be humble and say, okay, maybe I don’t know everything, so I’ll refer you to somebody else who does, right?

Dr. Emilio Justo
Absolutely, absolutely. But, but I do find in my mind a little bit of a distinction because for those people who don’t put themselves out there like you’re speaking of, that, in my opinion, is because they don’t have that obsession, right? If you have that obsession and that passion, you will put yourself out there and you’re not afraid to embrace failures, right? Oh my gosh, Grace, I’ve had so many failures in my life and continue to have failures. I could, I could do an entire podcast on just failures. So I think the fact that one doesn’t put themselves out there is more of a lack of obsession, not because of humility. I mean, humility to me is a standalone subject. It just means that, you know, that you’re one of billions on this planet, that we were all created under God and we all have things to contribute in this world and that neither of us is better than the other person. We may make more money than the other person, but that doesn’t make us better. And so humility and obsession, I think are two separate topics in my view.

Gloria Grace Rand
Yeah, absolutely. Well, we’re going to be right back in a minute because I do want to ask you actually where you got and how you were inspired to come up with this whole, you know, theory about this. So, but I’m going to pause for a second and I want to let folks know about something that I am productively obsessed about right now and that is my brand new Align to Shine Academy. And this is A, a 30 day program that is starting on November 26, 2024 and it is designed for people, entrepreneurs out there who are perhaps struggling with some self doubt and maybe you’re not valuing yourself enough, you’re not putting yourself out there and you’re not charging enough for your services and things like that. And so what I have put together is a, it’s a four week, four weeks of virtual training on what I, I call the Love method, which is I write about in my book, Live Love Engage and it’s going to include some energy, healing, daily guidance and community support and plus some bonuses as well. So if you are interested in joining, I’ve got some entrepreneurs are already ready to go and I would hope invite you to be able to join us. You can go to aligntoshineacademy.net and get all the details. I will have that in the show notes as well. But I hope that you will consider joining us. The investment’s only $197 and I will tell you that that is the lowest price it’s ever going to be because this is the first time I’ve launched that. So I’m really looking for founding members who are ready to play full out and, and give me some good feedback after it as well. So again, go to align to shine academy.net and you’ll get all the details and I hope you’ll join us and this way you can start 2025 with, you know, with your best foot forward. So I’m going to go back now and bring in again our guest. So yeah, I would love to know, have you share with our audience now a little bit about what, what inspired you to come up with all of these concepts of productive obsession and delayed gratification.

Dr. Emilio Justo
Well, great question, Grace. And truly, I must admit that I didn’t come up with the concept of delayed gratification. It was really me reflecting on my life, you know, as I get a little bit older, you know, having just turned, I think 35 or maybe it’s 40 last week. Just a joke, folks, that, you know, I look at my life and, you know, my, my wife and I have three relatively young kids and, you know, my life has been filled with delayed gratification without me choosing it. You know, coming to the United States as a refugee, as an immigrant, with my parents, not having anything. Delayed gratification was part of my journey. And then the obsession part came in, really, I think perhaps in high school, because as a freshman in high school, I had a serious medical crisis midway through my freshman year of high school and I was hospitalized for two and a half months. I had three surgeries on my face which left me scarred. And nonetheless, uh, I was resilient. I persevered. I developed just innately, innately. It’s not that anyone pushed me, my parents didn’t push me, but I developed this obsessive drive to achieve my goals. And lo and behold, I was blessed to be valedictorian of my graduating high school class, which was then a jumping off point to getting into the University of Michigan’s accelerated six year pre medical medical program, which allowed me to become a medical doctor at the age of 23, did four years of residency, and then started my private practice at the age of 27. So very, very young, if you know anything about medicine.

Gloria Grace Rand
Yeah

Dr. Emilio Justo
So it’s just that this was my journey. And so now as I’m looking back at my life and I’m trying to leave a legacy for my family, for my children and perhaps future grandchildren, I want to talk about these things. I want to put it in writing. You know, I wrote the book as a result of my TEDx talk on delayed gratification. I narrated the book myself on Audible. So. And again, part of the reason for that is I wanted to leave my voice as a legacy for my family and future family in the years ahead. And that’s really was the start to all of this. It was a very simple concept that has just simply evolved and, and the two TEDx talks have enjoyed a combined viewership so far of over 9 million views on YouTube. So. So, you know, I’m gonna just continue the process. I’m still working full time my 36 year of medical practice, and I enjoy that immensely, but I’m trying to do some new things because as we all get older, we start thinking about our own mortality. Right. And I don’t know how many years I’ll be on this earth. Hopefully, I’m hoping for another 30 years, but I don’t know. I don’t know. It could be tomorrow, so. So I’m just trying to leave that legacy piece behind.

Gloria Grace Rand
Well, I appreciate that. And, yeah, and I’m glad you explained about the accelerated program, because when I heard your TED Talk and you say it was like, 23, and I’m like, oh, how the heck did you do that? That seems awfully young to me. So, yeah, you were. You were definitely productively obsessed to be able to get through all of that. I want to get back to talking a little bit more about, you know, how we can help entrepreneurs, especially women entrepreneurs, or primarily my audience for the show. But, But I know we’ve had a gentleman who’s been watching today as well on LinkedIn, so thank you, Sean. He’s been commenting, so. Which is great. What is, what’s the biggest conception or misconception, I should say, about resilience, that that might be holding entrepreneurs back?

Dr. Emilio Justo
Well, I think the misconception perhaps may be that resilience is something that cannot be developed, cannot be worked on. Maybe it’s too oversimplified. But really, in my view, resilience is just looking at every setback, which I call a temporary step back, but I think most people call it a setback. You know, looking at every setback or challenge as an opportunity for growth and inner strength. You know, it’s basically rooted in my view, it’s rooted in the faith that every experience, grace, no matter positive or negative, adds depth to our journey and wisdom to our life. So. So I think that resilience is critical, and we must be able to persevere and embrace those failures that hit us. Right. Failures is part of growth. If we don’t have failures, we don’t grow. And so I think having a failure on a regular basis is a good thing. It forces us to learn and then to adjust whatever we’re doing to learn from it and then start again and make it better the next time.

Gloria Grace Rand
Yeah, absolutely. I, I do agree with that. And, you know, one of the things that was occurring to me as you’re, as you’re talking, too, is that, you know, it can be. It really can be challenging trying, trying to grow a business and start a business. And, and, and I wonder if you can. What would be maybe your recommendation to someone who is out there and they’re, they’re trying to get going, they’re trying to, you know, maybe cultivate, you know, some of these, you know, we talked a little bit about how to get started with like delayed gratification. But what other, what other tips would you have for someone who wants to really start, you know, becoming what they know inside, that they can be, that they can be a success, what would you recommend them to do?

Dr. Emilio Justo
Well, great question. I mean, many different answers. A couple things that come to mind is that we have to be willing to strategically take on risk. Now, when I talk about risk, I’m not referring to risk as a gambler would. If a gambler, you know, if we go to Las Vegas and spin the roulette wheel. That’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about a calculated, thoughtful risk. Because in order to achieve in life, and I’ve been, throughout my life, I’ve been a calculated risk taker. Fortunately, the majority of the risks that I’ve taken have paid off. But I can definitively tell you that I’ve taken some risks that in hindsight I think were really stupid and I really got burned badly, you know, both professionally, financially, personally, etc. So I think just taking small incremental steps, having that insight that you will succeed and that there’s a greater spirit out there, you know, if you want to call it God or something in the universe, that really, if you meditate on it and you think about it and you actualize your dreams and aspirations, that it will occur, but it’s not necessarily going to occur overnight. And so that’s where that resilience and perseverance comes in. But take calculated risks, take small steps every day you have to have a little bit of a thick skin. You know, you have to said earlier, you have to be able to embrace failure. You have to be able to brush off the negative self talk inside your head and the negative talk around you. Because sometimes we surround ourselves with people who we feel are in our corner and maybe they think that they’re in our corner. It could even be close friends and family members. And sometimes those close friends and family members can be a detriment because they may hold you back and they may say negative things to you like, oh, you’ll never do that. Oh, why are you wasting time on that? Why, why are you working so hard? You could be out enjoying yourself. You know, you got to be able to get that negative talk and surround yourself with positive people. If you can find mentors who have actually achieved something similar to what you’re wanting to achieve, that’s phenomenal. Right? That’s the best. If someone who’s actually walked those steps can give you terrific insight, but don’t listen to the negativity from someone who hasn’t walked those steps. That’s just going to drag you down.

Gloria Grace Rand
Oh yeah, absolutely. They, yeah, it’s, it’s not going to do you any favors at all to pay attention to those people. So I may love you.

Dr. Emilio Justo
I mean, they may love you immensely. It could be your, your parents, it could be your sibling, it could be your child, but you have to be able to still love them back and politely step to the side to stay focused on what it is that you want to achieve.

Gloria Grace Rand
Right. Well, I’m going to kind of diff. I don’t know if I would say divert, but I would just love to ask you this question. I like asking our guests. This is so, it’s totally not necessarily related to this at all. But what are you curious about right now?

Dr. Emilio Justo
You know, sometimes I’m curious about my role in this world. I mean truly, I mean other, you know, other than the fact that obviously I’ve been a, I am and have been a physician and surgeon and so I’ve been blessed to have a role in helping patients achieve better eyesight, better aesthetics, etc, but, but really there’s even a deeper purpose. And honestly I think I’m still trying to figure that out. I’m still trying to figure out my role. I mean, not, not my role but, but my betterment of being a better husband, spouse, a better father to our children, you know, because unfortunately in life, and these are, this is one of my personal, perhaps I think biggest failures is that it’s been very difficult to balance all aspects of my life. And sometimes I get so obsessed with my day to day things that may be work related and now the speaking and writing and those sorts of things. And unfortunately sometimes the family takes a back seat, which I’m not proud to say. So I’m always trying to figure out and be curious about how can I still maintain doing what I’m doing that I enjoy, but I also enjoy being a father and being a husband and trying to be a good human being overall. That’s my biggest curiosity right now.

Gloria Grace Rand
Well, it’s good to know that you’re still striving for some of that because sometimes I think people think that they have to have everything figured out at a young age and you’re not going to. Don’t worry about that. Figure out the next five or ten years maybe. What do you think?

Dr. Emilio Justo
Yes, absolutely. Just again, small incremental steps. Rejoice in the small achievements and the small milestones. I mean, really enjoy them, put them inside your mind. Use them as a jumping off point to get to the next level. So, for example, if you’re climbing up a set of 10 stairs or 10 levels and you go up the first set of stairs and you get the second floor, rejoice, you know, rejoice and then use that positive energy to fuel your passion and your inspiration to then go to the second level. And then you do the same thing and one keeps building on the other and next thing you know, you’ve really achieved tremendous things in life. Tremendous things. But it takes time. It takes time. And that’s the part that’s difficult with today’s society, with social media. I get it. You know, I get it. Our kids, you know, want instant everything. And it’s hard to have them understand that. One has to really work hard, be disciplined, persevere and delay that gratification. And it’s a difficult concept for today’s youth. I totally understand. I get it. For me, once again, it was just part of my upbringing in life. I didn’t choose it, it chose me. And here I am. And the better for it.

Gloria Grace Rand
Well, we’re glad that you are here and better for it. And just remember again that patience is a virtue so we can strive for it. And I love that illustration. I’m going up the flight of stairs because again, you can pace yourself. You don’t have to get up, you know, you don’t have to run all 10 flights right away. You can stop at that landing, take a break.

Dr. Emilio Justo
It. It’s not a sprint, it’s a marathon.

Gloria Grace Rand
Exactly. Yes, yes, I, and, and as someone who has done a marathon, I can, I can attest to that. Wow. It’s not an easy feat. And I won’t do. I’ve done it twice, but I don’t.

Dr. Emilio Justo
That’s impressive. You put me to shame.

Gloria Grace Rand
Well, it, it was, it took me a long time, okay? I was not, I was not in good shape either time. And it was like, well, I don’t know, seven hours or something. Six and a half hours. Seven hours. Not, not great. I don’t, I don’t recommend it. Unless you are donating to charity, which is what I was doing. I was raising money for charity. So for that it was worthwhile. Let me ask you, because we’re Almost getting ready to close out. Is there anything else that I should have asked you that I didn’t, or any other last point that you’d like to make before we close out today?

Dr. Emilio Justo
No. I think you’ve hit on some wonderful topics. I go back to the Cuban triad that I refer to. The being disciplined, the resilience and perseverance and the delayed gratification, having that obsessive drive, having a purpose, knowing that there is a bigger, larger purpose to your life that is being overseen by someone, whether you believe in God or otherwise. There’s someone out in the universe that’s really directing and helping us achieve what we want and just staying in a state of gratitude and humility. And I think if we can incorporate those attributes slowly, methodically, I think any of us can really achieve our goals and expectations and our aspirations. So one of my talking points is that, you know, lack of privilege, you know, I wasn’t privileged, I was a refugee. But lack of privilege in this world and certainly in the United States, my goodness. Right. We, we have so much in this country to offer us. But lack of privilege is not an obstacle to success. You know, so much, so much of the time we hear in the media, you know, the, the, this privilege concept that that’s why such and such became success. Successful is due to privilege. And sure, that that can help certain aspects of success, but lack of privilege, whether it be ethnicity, race, financially, is not an obstacle you can achieve. I sincerely, 100% believe that every person on this earth can achieve if they have the proper attributes and attitudes in their heart and soul.

Gloria Grace Rand
Yeah, it really just takes that deciding, you know, and deciding is it worth it having that strong enough. Why? You know, I know. I think Simon Sinak wrote a book where he talks about that. But if your why is strong enough, you’re going to make what you want happen, happen. You’re going to figure out a way and. But I do think it also requires setting intentions and asking for guidance, asking with, going within and, and saying, show me, show me how to do this. You know, direct me on my path. And then I think doors do open for you. So.

Dr. Emilio Justo
But part of directing on the path is self-education, right? I mean, there’s formal education that as kids, like our kids sometimes gripe about having go to school and they ask, well, why am I learning this? This is never going to serve me in life. Okay, I get some of those questions. But self-education, whether you end up going to college or not, you can always self-educate yourself by reading books, audiobooks and self-education is crucial, especially in today’s society. Right. The world is changing at such a rapid pace. But self-education, which, again, is part of that obsessive drive, I go back to that obsession. You have to have that obsession, and self-education is part of it, so that we can really achieve things. We have to understand what’s around us and how to do things. Like, I’ll have one of our kids say, oh, you know, let’s start a business. Can you float me, you know, a few thousand dollars and I’ll start a business? And I look and think, what do you know about starting a business? You know, you don’t even barely know how to write a check or balance your checkbook, and you’re talking about starting a business. So, you know, so self education, I think is critical.

Gloria Grace Rand
Absolutely. Yeah. And there’s no shortage of ways that you can do that nowadays. I mean, you can, because you can. Actually, I’ve listened to books on YouTube that people have uploaded, so it’s. You can certainly go to your local library. You can go to Amazon and. But there’s also ways that you can, you can get that education. So I love that. I know that there’s people who’ve been listening to this today and would like to know more about you. Maybe they want to be able to see your TED talks and things. So how can folks get in touch with you?

Dr. Emilio Justo
Well, the easiest way is that they can go to my personal website, which is separate from my practice website, and that’s Dr. Emilio Justo.com D R E M I L I O J U S T O dot com and in that website, there’s links to pretty much everything. There’s links to both of my TEDx talks. There’s links to Amazon for the book and for Audible if they want the audiobook. There are links to dozens of podcasts that I’ve been a guest on, such as yours. There’s links to many articles. I think there’s a wealth of information on there. And there’s also a contact page where they can write a question and submit an email or request or a question, and it comes directly to me. And I’m extraordinarily efficient at getting back to people. So I typically get back the next day and if, excuse me, the same day. And if not the same day, certainly within 24 hours.

Gloria Grace Rand
Well, very good. And that’s. That’s saying a lot for. For a gentleman such as yourself who is so busy. And I know that you were able to. To squeeze this interview in today between procedures. So I appreciate that.

Dr. Emilio Justo
Love so much in between surgeries right now.

Gloria Grace Rand
Yeah. Well, thank you so much for joining us. This has been enlightening and I really, I wish you continued success and look forward to your next TED Talk next year, hopefully very much.

Dr. Emilio Justo
Grace, thank you for the privilege and the honor and kudos to you for all the wonderful work that you’re doing and many blessings to you.

Gloria Grace Rand
Thank you. And I also want to thank all of you for listening or watching wherever, if it’s on YouTube or on social media. And I hope that you have gotten a lot of value out of it today. If this is your first time and you would like to, you know, hear more about us, make sure that you do subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or subscribe on YouTube at. Gloria Grace, Rand, I know it should be live, love, engage, but what are you going to do? I. I started my personal YouTube before I started the podcast, so there you go. But I’m not changing it. Ha. So until next time, I encourage you, as always, to go and live fully, love deeply and engage authentically.

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About the Author
An online marketer, SEO copywriter, and speaker for 15+ years, Gloria Grace Rand has helped over 150 companies including AAA and Scholastic Book Fairs attract and convert leads into sales.

Losing her older sister to cancer propelled Gloria on a journey of spiritual awakening that resulted in the publication of her international best-selling book, "Live. Love. Engage. – How to Stop Doubting Yourself and Start Being Yourself."

Known as “The Light Messenger” for her ability to intuitively transmit healing messages of love and light, Gloria combines a unique blend of energy healing techniques, intuition, and marketing expertise to create transformational results for her clients.

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