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Finding Mind-Blowing Happiness with Trish Ahjel Roberts

Joining me on this episode is Trish Ahjel Roberts. She is a Self-Actualization Coach and Happiness Expert with a background in Corporate Sales, Finance, Buddhism and Yoga. Trish is the author of three self-help books including Mind-Blowing Happiness Guide to Self-Care.

On this episode of the Live. Love. Engage. Podcast:

  • Why she pivoted from a career in finance to being a happiness expert
  • 5 Steps to achieving mind-blowing happiness
  • Why it’s important to find a supportive circle
  • How to tame your temper in 4 steps

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Gloria Grace Rand: [00:00:00] Namaste and welcome. Welcome to this live edition of live love and gage. I am so happy to be with you today and to have a wonderful guest with us. And I’m going to bring on here, who is going to share with us all about. How to have mind blowing happiness. So I’m going to welcome if I can bring her in here.
Let me add her to the stream. There she is. Trish Ahjel Roberts. Welcome.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: Thank you Gloria. You pronounced it perfectly.

Gloria Grace Rand: Oh, good. I’m so glad. Um, I delighted to have you, and let me tell all of our old snares as well as those of you who are watching, um, Broadcast today, just all about this amazing woman. She is a self-actualization coach and happiness expert with a background in corporate sales, finance, Buddhism.

I love the [00:01:00] combination of that. She is the founder of mindblowing, happiness, LLC, and black vegan life. And, um, she is the author of three self-help books, a book, mind blowing, happiness guide to self-care. Uh, the self-help memoir thinking outside the Chrysalis of black women. The spreading her wings and the inspirational journal, 12 steps to mindblowing happiness, a journalist insights, quotes, and questions to juice up your journey.

And she’s also got over a decade of Buddhist study at a Kadamba meditation center in Atlanta, Georgia, and over 20 years of yoga experience. So. You are a well-rounded person with all this, you know, yoga, meditation being a certified Reiki practitioner. And yet you’re into corporate sales and finance. I love this combination.

So, um, why don’t you, we start off [00:02:00] by telling our listeners, uh, Maybe actually just, just how you, how you got to encompass all those different sides of yourself.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: Yeah, it’s funny because I write about in my self-help memoir, growing up as a. first generation Caribbean and New York city, Caribbean immigrant, I should say, in New York city. I thought that I really had three job opportunities. Like I could be a doctor, a lawyer, or a business person, and anything else wasn’t like really considered a job in my family. So that’s kinda how I got into finance and corporate sales and those things. And, one of the things that I realized along the way is that.

You know, in, in some of these large corporations and, along the way, I, uh, discovered yoga when I was pregnant with my daughter. And later on, when I was going through a difficult time in my life, I walked into a meditation center and it completely changed my life. So that’s how that happened.

Gloria Grace Rand: Oh, that’s [00:03:00] awesome. what was it about meditation that actually made such an impact on you?

Trish Ahjel Roberts: I was weirdly drawn to meditation for many years, not even really understanding what it was. When I was younger, I remember learning that Buddhist monks were bells on their toes to keep from even stepping on an insect. And I just thought that was so beautiful, but I reached a point, I think it was 2010 actually.

The job wasn’t working out for me, my relationship wasn’t working out. And I finally said, you know what, let me get on the coupe on the computer. And I Googled meditation. And that was when I found could they have the meditation center in Georgia and it really had just a huge impact on my life. So that was sort of the beginning of my journey to really understanding happiness and that.

Gloria Grace Rand: Awesome. I’m going to get to the happiness in a minute, but I’m still, I’m still kind of intrigued by [00:04:00] meditation. So is Kadampa a type of meditation or is that just the name of the center? I’m curious. Cause I know there are lots of different variations of meditation that people can do

Trish Ahjel Roberts: Yes, so Kadampa is kind of like a denomination of Buddhism..

Gloria Grace Rand: Okay.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: And it’s really designed for Western learners. So I equate it to when I grew up Christian, I grew up Catholic, but we had like the new living translation of the Bible, which you could understand. It was very plainly spoken as opposed to kind of the king James with the bees and the thousands of dollars.

So it’s Buddhism, but it’s very understandable to a Western ear. so it was just. Very helpful. And that’s where, you know, if you’re familiar with Buddhism, meditation is a huge proponent of that. for me, I think, you know, the big thing for me that I learned through meditation is that it is a way to really nurture.

The spiritual [00:05:00] self and many of us are walking around. We don’t even know we have a spiritual self until you get still long enough to kind of access that. And the changes that you experienced can be quite profound. You know, you start tapping into wisdom. You didn’t know you had and getting a sense of.

Oneness and completeness, as opposed to the normal state that we’re usually in, which is this kind of a frenzied fight or flight, you know, going from multitasking activity to activity. So it really, really allowed me to, get comfortable with myself in a lot of different ways.

Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah, I can definitely, I can definitely relate to that cause. I don’t know why I’m getting an echo all of a sudden, so I’m going to go like this instead. I can, yeah, I can absolutely relate to that. Cause it’s definitely meditation has helped me,, also to be able to manage my emotions better and not get so upset at different things. [00:06:00] Yeah. So, so tell me a little bit, yes. So how then did you sort of get into becoming a happiness expert? What did that look like for you?

Trish Ahjel Roberts: You know, it’s funny. Cause I always say that that came from not being very happy at all. Honestly, does that moment that I talked about in 2010 when I was not doing well and I was kind of at my wits end and I went to a meditation center and.

Started studying from there, you know, and I, I started studying, how to be happier and the path kind of just began from there. And then I later studied, actually did my yoga certification and studied the tenants of yoga and a lot of them kind of overlap and. It came to a point where prior to 2020, I was putting together a retreat and I wanted to teach all of these things I had learned over so many years.
[00:07:00] And. Part of it came to me in the middle of the night. It was like three o’clock in the morning. I had these 10 concepts. I had to wake up and write them down. And I realized later, as I published 12 steps, a mind blowing happiness and started teaching, or I should say publish thinking outside the Chrysalis and started teaching.

I realized that those steps were really the steps to self-actualization to. Deep fulfillment in your life. so it, it all was very organic. It wasn’t like one day I woke up and I said, I’m going to teach happiness or I’m going to teach. That’s it, it just kind of, it all just came together.

Gloria Grace Rand: So let’s, let’s talk a little bit about the steps cause, I did promo that and that’s what this podcast is going to be focusing on.

So can you share with us maybe a couple of the steps to help people out there who are, maybe are struggling at trying to find happiness? Because it’s certainly been a tough couple of years for, for folks. And, uh, and I think we all could use a little more [00:08:00] happiness in our lives.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: Absolutely. So when I talk about mindblowing happiness, it’s, it’s a little bit deeper, you know, it’s not just the happiness that you get when you’re eating a really good slice of cake or something like that.

And the interesting thing, when you study happiness, Is that it’s only a small percent of happiness that is situational. You know, that’s based on how big your car is or how big your house is. And that kind of thing. 40% of our happiness is really like a genetic set point. And then the other 40% we can work on by changing our behaviors in the way that we think about things, you know, things like meditating.

but the first step in the book is really foundational. Healing from your past before you can really do a whole lot of personal development work. And for some of us who have experienced significant trauma, we know what we may need to work on, but many of us don’t even know what. [00:09:00] What’s really hurting us.

So I like to tell people that it could be simple. Like somebody told you, you couldn’t sing when you were 10 years old or told you you couldn’t dance or my soul, your lunch money, or your peanut butter sandwich, whatever it is. But those little aggressions cause us to change our behavior as we go through life.

So identifying the things that have harmed. And working to heal from those things, whether they’re large or small is really the first step.

Gloria Grace Rand: awesome. Now, is that something that you do in your practice is really is help people with that? Or is that something that maybe sometimes you have to refer people to other experts perhaps?

Trish Ahjel Roberts: Right. So I’m, I’m a coach. So. If my clients actually need help from a therapist, I’ll refer them, but there are a lot of ways to heal. So it’s not always where you need necessarily one-on-one therapy and not everybody quite honestly has access to that depending, you know, [00:10:00] what your situation is. So for some people, it could be working through a book.

It could be, working through. a therapy app. it could be working in a support group. So there are a lot of ways to access healing modalities, including things like yoga and meditation without necessarily needing one-on-one therapist. But yes, I do refer people to.

Gloria Grace Rand: That’s good. What are, what are some of the other steps that, , that we can help, help you can help people get to mindblowing happiness in a logical order.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: So they, so the first five are really foundational. So the healing was first. The second one is spirituality, which we talked a little bit about, for a long time in my life. I really didn’t recognize myself as a spiritual person. You know, I was raised Catholic and. It almost kind of felt a little bit. Like I was a little disconnected to that.

I later called myself atheist for many years and then Christian and I went through this whole kind of spiritual journey, but whatever [00:11:00] you consider yourself from a religious or non-religious perspective, it doesn’t matter. We’re all spiritual people. So we all have, you know, a physical body and then we have a spiritual body and just the recognition that there is something.

Going on with you besides your flesh and bones is incredibly important. And once you realize that it’s not enough to just kind of shrug your shoulders at it, you have to start to nurture and appreciate that spiritual self. So finding modalities that allow you to do that. Absolutely foundational on the path to mind blowing happiness.

Gloria Grace Rand: That’s awesome. What gets you really excited about the work that you’re doing with helping people to achieve these things?

Trish Ahjel Roberts: Okay. So, you know, it gets me excited, Gloria, honestly, I feel like I’m trying to change the world. So we live in a world where there are a lot of bad things taking place and it’s not sustainable.

[00:12:00] So, you know, countries are warring, there’s famines. You know, people are killing each other. There’s this. All of these things that are taking place, come from a place of unhappiness because people who feel deeply joyful fulfilled are not out here, you know? Defrauding other people stealing people’s, you know, committing acts of violence.

You know, those don’t come from a place of joy. Those are actions that come from a place of pain. So one person at a time Gloria to start feeling better. And the other thing I think that I find is that. Many times the people who really do have good hearts are the quiet people. You know, we’re, we may not feel confident.

You may not feel like you can stand up to [00:13:00] people who really have bad intentions and big voices. So I really want to encourage, and that’s a lot of what I do through coaching. I really want to encourage people who have kind hearts to find their voices, find their authenticity, to find their power so that one person at a time we can make this place sustainable and…

Gloria Grace Rand: awesome. You know, I, I just came back today from, from a retreat here and my dogs are going nuts and my laps.

Crazy. Anyway, so I just came back from a retreat and it was wonderful to be amongst a group of like minded people. Is that something else also that you have found that can, uh, help people to be able to find that mind blowing happiness?

Trish Ahjel Roberts: That actually takes us straight into the third step. [00:14:00] The third step is connection and community and retreats are fantastic. You know, I mean, besides the learning, being able to connect with people who were looking to develop personally develop their consciousness. Yes. Yes. I wonder which retreat you went to. I went to a Chopra retreat recently, which was a nice.

Gloria Grace Rand: So this was a while it was called the recharge retreat, but it’s a it’s through Tasha Chen. Or she has a, well now I’m going to mess it up, but it’s a money. She runs a money attraction challenge periodically, so check it out. And, it’s, it’s really all about abundance mindset and it was just wonderful. Such an enjoyable experience being with, with folks. So what else are, I know there’s like, so let’s start…

Trish Ahjel Roberts: like some of these retreats, I love retreats I’m a frequent flyer. Some of them can be pricey, you know? So depending on your budget, there are different options and [00:15:00] different budgets. But one thing that I just like for people to know is that no matter what your budget is, you can create a retreat at home when you don’t necessarily have to go out and find a bunch of people to have a self-care day for herself at home, where you set aside some time for meditation, some yoga, some journaling, some self massage, and get some of the benefits of a retreat. I mean, you won’t have the connection and community part of it, but you can get some of the healing and spiritual, development.

Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah. And that, that is so important to be able to take time, to nurture yourself because we so often don’t do that, especially women, you know, we’re always wanting to take care of everybody.

And especially if you’re a mom in particular, you know, we’re wanting to take care of our kids. And then sometimes our significant others as well. You know, sometimes we like to call them the fourth or fifth child, you know, depending on how many you have or whatever, you know, Especially with the pandemic.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: People’s [00:16:00] finances are in all different places. So, you know yeah. There’s lots of options.

Gloria Grace Rand: Absolutely. What what’s, what’s some of the, what are some of your favorite strategies actually? Like what do you do to practice self-care.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: Oh, my goodness. I have so many.

Gloria Grace Rand: I have so many too. Pick your top two..

Trish Ahjel Roberts: I love massage and I love yoga. So maybe those are top two, but I’ve got such a long list. I’m a runner. I love hiking being out in nature is just amazing. so I guess what was that my top for traveling so powerful. I mean, you know, Focus on happiness as a journal. Yeah, really powerful, but sometimes you need someone to ask the question. So the journaling prompts help a lot.

Gloria Grace Rand: Oh, that’s good. Yeah. Yeah. That’s true. I, it does help sometimes. I mean, I try to do, [00:17:00] what is it. Julia Cameron, I think the writer’s way where she recommends doing morning pages where you just kind of freeform write like about three different three pages in the morning and I’ll do that.

but sometimes it’s like, I don’t know what to write about. And of course will say, just go ahead and say, I don’t know what to write about. I don’t know. And then sometimes things will come to you. But, but what, what are, what are some examples of some prompts that you have? I’m curious to know. Let’s see, just happened to have it right handy too,

Trish Ahjel Roberts: I have another one here too. They go in a certain order, but the first prompt for each step always begins with your foundation, your family. So, you know, the first one where it’s talking about healing is really describing your journey to healing. Have you started, is it necessary? What’s your first memory as a child. Cause that’s actually quite significant.
[00:18:00] What’s your first memory is if it was loving or traumatic as a child, what memories are painful, what areas need work? So that’s just kind of thought when we get into, for example, we talked about connection. The fourth step deals with self-awareness and self-love. So I find a lot of times people kind of do it backwards.

They think that they can love themselves without actually developing self-awareness on authenticity. So they don’t know who it is. They’re really trying to love it almost becomes just kind of a platitude. You know, I love myself, The book has some prompts here. One of the ones that I think is more interesting is asking what types of mass, not COVID mask, mask forms you wear and why.

So those are things [00:19:00] like, I mean, it could even be my cardigan. Why am I wearing a cardigan instead of the Keeney top for this particular occasion, just recognizing why, you know, when I work in finance, why was I showing up in a Navy business suit? Or why am I wearing my hair like this instead of, you know, some other way.

So just understand that. The ways that we adorn ourselves and show up in certain spaces, you know, and recognizing that that’s what we’re doing and that that’s who we are. That’s how we’re choosing to show up. Yeah. So there’s lots of good. That’s a good part. And it’s like that there’s one in here that people struggle with a little bit where it’s writing 50 things, 55 things you love about yourself.
And, it’s easy to write five. But when you start going farther than that, it’s almost like you [00:20:00] have to learn to fall in love with yourself. When you fall in love with someone else, you might like the curl at the end of the hair or the way they smell in the morning. You know, little things. Learning to love little things about yourself and not focus because with ourselves, we usually focus on what we don’t like, look in the mirror and we’re like, oh, I got up right here.
Now the whole rest of ourselves. That’s pretty. Okay. It’s things like that.

Gloria Grace Rand: That’s so good. Yeah. It is amazing how. I fall into that trap at times. And, and that’s, I will say that’s one of the things that is good when you can connect with other people, because oftentimes they can see the good in you much easier than you can see it in yourself.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: right. Exercise as well. You know, trying to fall in love with yourself is to ask other people what your good [00:21:00] qualities are. Cause a lot of times,

Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah. Yeah. And especially if you do get stuck when you’re making that list, that’s what you maybe that’ll help, prompt you to think. Oh yeah, that’s right. Yeah.
I am good at that.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: Another way to do that too, is to look at who you admire and see what qualities you admire in maybe iconic figures or celebrities or family members and France, and. Then make a decision to develop those qualities in yourself. So as you develop yourself into something that you admire, then you also fall in love with yourself more so.

Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Although sometimes I think we also even admire those things in people and we don’t even realize that a lot of times I think it’s, we do actually have those qualities, but again, I think it’s easier to see them in other people. Maybe forget that we have that as well. Have you ever,

Trish Ahjel Roberts: I think that’s true too, you know, [00:22:00] cause when I, I was actually going through a second coaching certification.

And one of the things that they had us do was write people that we admire. And I realized that the people that I admire that I admire were people that kind of reflected back to me what I saw in myself, maybe on a higher level, but still, you know, the qualities that I thought were important.

Gloria Grace Rand: Absolutely. I think the lesson here is that. You know, don’t be so hard on yourself and to realize that, you know, you have, everybody has awesome qualities and we do need to recognize that,

Trish Ahjel Roberts: Focus on the positive affirm myself, you know, I often work with coaching clients on is negative. Self-talk. You know, like that really is something that it can bring you down.
If you’re not controlling that voice in your head, there are enough people in the world who want to tear you down. Why do [00:23:00] it yourself?

Gloria Grace Rand: Definitely. I know I’ve I’ve. I’ve gotten better at not doing that so much. I still occasionally will do it, but I have, one thing I think I’ve gotten better at is recognizing it quickly. Like when I sit and I’ll be like, oh, come on now,

Trish Ahjel Roberts: Plus, you have the awareness. And when you recognize it, Don’t yell at yourself, Gloria.

Gloria Grace Rand: No, exactly. Just say, nope, now let’s reframe.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: So I always say redirect yourself with love and compassion as if you were talking to someone that you love. Whatever your favorite. I have my, my puppies and sleeping in my lap because if I was talking to my sweet puppy or my daughter, so, yeah.

Gloria Grace Rand: Awesome. let’s see. So we’ve done. I think we’ve done four steps so far.
So I think we were going to do maybe one more. So what’s what’s step five.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: Yes. Step five is such an important one. [00:24:00] I’m working on a book now that deals with this. So it is peacefulness and peacefulness sounds. Kind of boring. So I usually talk about it as extinguishing anger, because for a long time, I didn’t know that I had the option to not be angry.

Like anger is such a part of our culture. And honestly, anger sells people like to seek conflict. An anchor is not always. Yelling and screaming and throwing things or fighting many times it’s kind of a low simmering Discontentment. So it’s frustration, disappointment, impatience, jealousy. Like I, I like to call it kind of angers, cranky cousins, and you could go through your day just kind of low level simmering and that there’s no joy there.

All of these expressions come from this idea that things should be different than they [00:25:00] are. Some people will be angry because it’s raining, which is really that’s the weather, generally speaking, traffic, you know, anything not happening the way we think it should happen. And, The reality, Gloria, I don’t know about your life, but in mine, things typically don’t happen the way I think that they should happen.

Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah, I know. Sometimes it’s annoying when that happens.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: This whole thing, unless you get okay with the fact that you do not organize the universe, you can just be kinda miserable all the time. But I, I do state, I do teach, approach to kind of help people, you know, reclaim control in moments of anger. And I can teach it if you want to, if you want me to share with you,

Gloria Grace Rand: that would be lovely.
Yeah, absolutely. Go for it.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: Yeah. So it’s a four step approach. And the [00:26:00] first one, you know, for me, I used to always feel my hair stand on end when I was getting angry. But that feeling of kind of that fire, when you feel something making you angry first step is to acknowledge. You know, and when you were talking about meditation before, that helps you find the space between your emotions and your reaction.

So getting practice, noticing and saying, okay, I feel that happening. The second step is to take a few deep breaths because you know, when people fly off the handle, oxygen probably is not going to your brain. You know, you’re not making good choices and it is impossible to make a good choice when you’re saying.

So just that alone hopefully will motivate your audience. So just learning to take a couple deep breaths, calm your nervous system, get a little space between this feeling and your response to. And then, the third step is to ignite your empathy. And that’s something that I’ve worked with coaching [00:27:00] clients on, because I realized that, it requires some imagination to kind of put yourself in someone else’s situation.

You know, somebody cuts you off in traffic, and now you’re thinking, okay, I wonder what their situation is, why they did. Or whatever the example is, it’s, it’s making you angry, and then the final step is some sort of constructive action. So you’re not gonna throw a brick or give somebody the finger or do whatever thing that anger might inspire.

You we’ll make a decision to do something that is productive and it could be, you know what, the traffic example, it might just be like, Listening to a podcast or, or doing something that’s useful or, you know, listening to music or whatever, if it’s something different, more egregious, perhaps maybe your constructive action is to, I don’t know, lead a protest, start an organization, you know, do something to combat, whatever it is that you think, [00:28:00] needs to change.

Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah, Absolutely. Can anyone who, you know, wants to be able to execute any of the steps you’ve talked about, even specifically, even with peacefulness, but in the, in the ones we’ve talked about. can anybody you know, get it wrong once you’ve been talking about today, do you think?

Trish Ahjel Roberts: I hope not. Every word that comes out of my mouth comes from a place of love. So I hope that there’s nothing that I could say where someone could translate it into something that was not my intention. Now, as far as working through the 12 steps, it takes effort, you know, any kind of personal work takes effort, and anything worth having takes effort.

I think that. My willing happiness or deep joy and fulfillment is, I mean, what would be [00:29:00] better than that? You know, what would be better than that? Now you can, instead of working on yourself, you could just zone out with television, or I don’t know. Drink cocktails or, you know, do things that are not good for you or good for your, personal development and your progress.
But, even if you take, you know, one of the things I say about this book, even if you were to only master one step, right? Cause they’re all big topics. Healing, spirituality is a big topic. You know, overcoming anger is a big topic, but even if you only did one. Yeah, I suppose, in the next five years, the only thing that you did was learn how to extinguish anger, frustration, disappointment, jealousy, that alone can change your life.

Gloria Grace Rand: Absolutely. Yeah. That makes a huge difference. And even if you wouldn’t necessarily get mindblowing happiness, you’d be getting pretty close. I would think.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: It [00:30:00] would be like extra happiness. I tell you to Gloria, I say, mind blowing happiness. It’s not like you read the book, you wake up. The next thing you know, it’s being on a path and you know, every year, every day, getting a little bit better, understanding a little bit more. Feeling better about yourself walking in the world with more confidence, more authenticity, more joy, and people around you will feel it, you know, people are going to come to you and it’s almost like, well, what are you having?
I’ll have some of that, you know?

Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah, absolutely. Is there anything that you wish you had known when you first started out, you know, especially on this, this journey where you started to help people with, with happiness.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: Hm. I don’t [00:31:00] know, from the perspective of helping people with happiness, I would really say from a business perspective, you know, I left my, I worked as a financial advisor for 12 years and I left my role in 2019 that go into business for myself.

And there are certainly things that I wish I had known, when I was transitioning, transitioning into an entrepreneur that. I dunno, I guess, you know, you learn from your mistakes. One of the biggest ones I would say is like branding and strategy, because in the beginning I was just, I was just doing whatever Gloria finally, you know, somebody helped me more with the strategy and that kind of thing.

Gloria Grace Rand: Absolutely. Yeah, it’s, it’s all a learning process. And I think, I think all entrepreneurs go through that, but it is, it is good when you can finally sort of land on that differentiator, you know, so that you can really help yourself [00:32:00] to stand out and, and to brand yourself, and be able to say, you know, yeah, this is why this is what I do, and this is why you need to work with me.

So it’s important that you are able, I’m glad. Yeah, come for that. And stand for, you know, stand for happiness.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: And it’s funny because it all comes full circle because I am a self-actualization coach, but I’m also a diversity coach. I specialize in diversity, equity, inclusion, and business and entrepreneurship.

And I also coach authors who want to write and publish their books. So it’s kind of like, It all kind of happened organically and enjoying it. So

Gloria Grace Rand: my goodness, you’re a busy lady then it sounds like, well, do, do you have a favorite thing of all of the, any of those things that you do?
You know, I know it’s like asking what’s your favorite child? I know, but you know,

Trish Ahjel Roberts: I think that I’m a writer at heart I’ve been [00:33:00] writing since I was a little girl, so that’s probably my first love. but I’ve always wanted to teach and support and help people. So the coaching is fantastic. And I just love that I have enough specializations now that I can meet people where they are, you know, I can help them with a variety of things if they need it.

Gloria Grace Rand: That’s awesome. That’s it? Yeah. That’s, that’s a real blessing to be able to do that. So that’s, that’s very cool. Um, is there anything I should’ve asked you that I haven’t.
It’s something that you’d like to be able to convey today.

Trish Ahjel Roberts: I don’t think so. I really enjoyed going through the five foundational steps because they’re so important.

Yeah. I don’t think that there’s anything pressing on my mind. You know, sometimes I guess this is one thing. Sometimes people ask me about [00:34:00] how to transition into working with passion or how to find your north star, you know, cause I’ve made such a drastic change from working in corporate and working in finance to doing really the work that I want to do.

so I can give your audience, you know, just some clues for that. And one of them is to notice when you lose track of time. So if you’re working on something and, oh my goodness, three hours have passed. That’s kind of when you’re really in that juicy spot when you’re in the zone. So take notice of the times when you know, just time seems to go away. And even if you’re in a position where, you know, you can’t just leave your job and do something else, you may be able to pursue something on the weekends or a few hours a week. And don’t just let it. Don’t just let it go away. I did that with my first book I published, I wrote my first novel in 1995 and I couldn’t sell it.

And I [00:35:00] swear, um, Gloria, I didn’t write another word for like 20 years and I thought, oh my gosh, it’s a terrible story. I shouldn’t tell anyone, but I tell it to people because. I have that story so I can let other people know not to do what I did. You know, that I could have been writing. I don’t know two hours a week or, or something as opposed to tying it to money or the, the thought of it being some financial gain, because the money can come later, you know, honing your craft.
You can be meeting people in your industry or doing hobbies that you enjoy and really enriching your life. And then. You know, see what happens later, what you want to do with it later. So

Gloria Grace Rand: yeah, absolutely. Well, and I appreciate you sharing that because I think it is important to know that, you know, we’re, we’re not all perfect.

We do make mistakes and, or, or we do not only make mistakes, but sometimes we make choices that, you know, looking back you’re like, ah, [00:36:00] you know, I wish I hadn’t had done that, but it’s part of. it’s part of being human it’s part of

Trish Ahjel Roberts: anybody who tells you they’re perfect is lying or they’re just not they’re under sharing.You know what I mean?

Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah, absolutely. Oh, goodness. Well, this has been awesome. I’ve so enjoyed talking with you today. If I know I’ve been. Periodically sharing your, your website on the banner here, but for those who are listening to this interview, how can someone best get ahold of you? If they want to learn more about how to achieve mind-blowing happiness, and they want to maybe get your books and all that. Yeah, so

Trish Ahjel Roberts: you can go to my website with is It’s Trish A H J E L You can also go to mindblowing and it’ll just redirect you and you can access my books there. You can download free excerpts from 12 [00:37:00] steps to mindblowing happiness, or from thinking outside the Chrysalis and, What else is on there?

Oh, you can download the free ebook, which is the mindblowing happiness guide to self-care. I talk a lot about gratitude practices in that ebook and coming next week, I have something new that’s launching, so you can look for me then it’s going to be the mind blowing happiness. Book club and I will have a free downloadable leader’s guide.
So you can go through the 12 steps over the 12 months of the upcoming year in community with, you know, some people that, you know, and work through it together. So I think it’s going to be exciting.

Gloria Grace Rand: That sounds awesome. Well is, and is that to be something that can someone join like later? Is it going to be sort of like an, a rolling enrollment or is it a

Trish Ahjel Roberts: yeah, so, um, that’s going to be free if the press release is going to hit next week, just kind of [00:38:00] announcing that the leader’s guide is available and anybody can download it and start their own group.

Um, now, I mean, I’m starting. The mind blowing happiness circle, which is a paid service. And that’s a once a month, you know, I liked the number 12, so it’ll be on the 12th of the month at noon Eastern time. And I will lead a live, um, Conversation and, you know, we’ll do a little meditation, a little visualization, cover some topics once a month in community.
And I just think that that’s going to be really sweet as well.

Gloria Grace Rand: Absolutely. Sounds awesome. Well, I’ll make sure that I will have all of the information in the show notes for those of you who are listening, where you don’t have a pen handy, so don’t worry about it. And I really appreciate you being here with us to share your wisdom, Trish.
And I wish you much success, in everything that you do. So

Trish Ahjel Roberts: thank you so much [00:39:00] for having me.

Gloria Grace Rand: I really appreciate it. And thank all of you for listening and for watching. I really appreciate you as well. And I, encourage you. , also, if you would like a freebie of mine. I have a you go to bye byeself-doubt dot com and that’s B Y E as in, you know, bye-bye see you later.
Bye. Bye self-doubt dot com. You can get my, a free guide to helping you to. Frankly, stop doubting yourself and to start being yourself. So I invite you to do that. And, again, thank you. Make sure that you’re subscribed to us on your favorite podcast platform and, , check us out on YouTube as well as here, when I do these on Facebook as well on, Wednesdays and.
Until next time has always, I encourage you to go out today and every day and live fully [00:40:00] love, deeply and engage authentically.

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About the Author
An online marketer, SEO copywriter, and speaker for 15+ years, Gloria Grace Rand has helped over 150 companies including AAA and Scholastic Book Fairs attract and convert leads into sales.

Losing her older sister to cancer propelled Gloria on a journey of spiritual awakening that resulted in the publication of her international best-selling book, "Live. Love. Engage. – How to Stop Doubting Yourself and Start Being Yourself."

Known as “The Light Messenger” for her ability to intuitively transmit healing messages of love and light, Gloria combines a unique blend of energy healing techniques, intuition, and marketing expertise to create transformational results for her clients.

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