When Renaye Thornborrow discovered the power of personal development, she vowed to empower children with Mindset Skills – but the journey of launching her own life coaching certification program and inspiring hundreds of coaches in 30 countries to use her work with kids has been a roller-coaster of challenges and resilience.
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Show Notes | Transcript“When faced with challenges and disappointments, most kids don’t have the skills to handle them. So as a result of that, they get down on themselves. This crushes their self confidence or their self esteem. So what Mindset Skills is all about is supporting children and proactively developing Mindset Skills for self esteem, for confidence, resilience, self leadership, and learning how to set and achieve goals – the missing link in children’s education.” – Renaye Thornborrow
Renaye Thornborrow is a leading personal development expert and the founder of a worldwide movement to bring life coaching to kids. She has certified hundreds of coaches in over 30 countries, helping them create a business they love as a life coach for kids, while empowering children around the world. Along the way, Renaye faced her own obstacles, but her unwavering vision to empower kids kept her going. She now teaches a “bounce back formula” with five Rs for building resilience, to help anyone get back up after a setback.
In this episode, you will learn the following:
- How Renaye Thornborrow’s work using Mindset Skills support children in navigating challenges and developing self-esteem, confidence, and resilience
- What is the “Bounce Back Formula” for building resilience and how can it be used to support entrepreneurs
- How can a Vision Board help entrepreneurs stay connected to their “why” and remain motivated
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Gloria Grace Rand: Namaste and welcome to another edition of Live. Love. Engage. And I am as always so happy to have a guest with us and today’s guest I’m really looking forward to. I met her recently and was intrigued by what she does. So let me tell you what she does. Her name is Renaye Thornborrow and she is leading a worldwide movement to bring life coaching to kids. . Since 2013, her company has certified hundreds of coaches in over 30 countries, helping them create a business they love as a life coach for kids, while empowering children around the world. She is also a personal development expert, member of the ICF, International coaching Federation, I believe that’s what that stands for. And a former 3-year board member for the Association of Coach Training Organizations. Hopefully my tongue will work a little bit better today. I seem to be tripping over myself a little bit. But anyway I’m just so delighted to welcome you Renaye to Live Love Engage.
Renaye Thornborrow: Thanks for having me Gloria. It’s a thrill to be here.
Gloria Grace Rand: I always love to start off the podcast asking our guests about what brought them to the work that they’re doing today and as I mentioned a moment ago, we met on a publicity summit and I was just totally intrigued by life coaching for kids. So because we hear about, especially for entrepreneurs, I’m sure many of you listening may actually be a life coach, so it’s not as unusual as maybe it might have been thirty years ago. But doing it for kids, that struck me as a bit unusual. So what got you into deciding to offer that type of service and then train other coaches as well?
Renaye Thornborrow: Yeah, Gloria, I’m going to answer this question and be happy to share that. It’s amazing, I’ve been doing this for almost twelve years now and still have people all the time saying, “Life coaching for kids? I didn’t know there was such a thing.” And it all kind of came about by accident. But the seed was planted many years ago, decades ago actually when I graduated from college. And Gloria, I discovered the world of personal development. And I remember thinking to myself, why didn’t I learn this when I was a kid? It made no sense to me that the personal development world and the way the life coaching world focuses on grownups. And those core thoughts and beliefs that shape who we are and what we think is possible for our lives are formed when we’re really young and I knew that I wanted my kids to one day know this, these powerful mindset skills. And through the years I became an expert in personal development. I used my skills to create a very successful corporate career, happy fulfilling marriage. And when I had children, a little over twenty years ago, my kids are 20 now, I couldn’t find anything out there to help them develop these mindset skills. There was plenty on how to get my kids to behave, a few things on character development, but nothing about mindset skills. So I started working with my kids myself and they were pretty young, four years old or so, five. And sometimes it seemed a little lectury or boring so I started kind of writing stories, just informally, over the next couple of years, more stories. And from there a vision just grew, Gloria and at the time I was vice president of marketing for a company, loved my job, fabulous career, loved my team, but I just had this pull to do, to bring this work to the world. And to bring this to children. And when I first launched my company, I retired from the corporate job, I was fortunate enough to be able to take a year off and wrote a full curriculum to teach 27 mindset skills to children using a story-based coaching curriculum. But what happened was, I launched it as a home-study program for parents to use with their kids, but then I had people coming to me, like life coaches, educators, and counselors and therapists, wanting to use my work in their businesses. I thought, well that’s a great idea because I knew they could reach children I could never be able to reach. And here we are, ten years later, have a certification program, and I’m just so honored – we have hundreds of coaches in over 30 countries who are using this work with kids. So it kind of came out by accident. But I’m just so glad it is. And it’s amazing, I’m so proud of our coaches and the impact that they’re having with children. That’s the journey.
Gloria Grace Rand: There’s so many questions that are going through my head right now. I’m trying to figure out which one to go first. So let’s start off with simply the benefits because you talk about mindset work with kids. So actually before even benefits, maybe just give me an example of something that you think kids aren’t getting that life coaching in regards to mindset helps them?
Renaye Thornborrow: Yeah, well you know, when faced with challenges and disappointments, most kids don’t have the skills to handle them. So as a result of that, they get down on themselves. This crushes their self-confidence or their self-esteem. They give up on themselves. That crushes their self-confidence. And they just, it, they’re left almost paralyzed and not feeling empowered in life. And so what mindset skills is all about is supporting children in proactively developing mindset skills for self-esteem, for confidence, resilience, and boy have we had things for children, all of us have gone through in the last few years, are coming out of the pandemic. Self-leadership, learning how to set and achieve goals, and these are just. It’s the missing link in children’s education. It’s the missing link in children’s mental health. It’s really supporting them in developing these skills. And just as an example, one skill that they’re missing, one of the favorite things I love to teach is about the skill of developing positive self-talk. In fact, there’s a story we give away for free on our website because we think it’s so important for everybody, children and grownups, to learn that skill of positive self-talk. So we invite people to go to our website, get that free story and start developing that skill because self-talk affects everything from our confidence, our self-esteem, our resilience and even what we believe we can achieve as well.
Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah. That’s for sure because I know I still occasionally catch myself with a little bit of negative self-talk and it’s, would have been nice to have learned that really consciously, being able to learn that at a younger age to be able to have that foundation. Which brings me to my next question. So how young do you recommend kids to be able to start doing this type of work?
Renaye Thornborrow: Well, our curriculum is really geared towards children between the ages of six through twelve. We want to get them in elementary school, middle school before they get into the really rough stuff in high school, college and on to the adult years as well. We want to support them in developing these mindset skills that they will be able to use for the rest of their lives. With our coaches, we have coaches that come from a variety of backgrounds. Some have experience working with a little bit younger kids and even teens and some of them will adapt the curriculum in order to support the expanded age groups on either end. But we’re really, we’re focused on ages six through twelve because once kids go to elementary school, that’s when they started experiencing some of the things in life such as getting a bad grade, not being invited to a birthday party, they’re not getting, maybe messing up in a ball game, or not getting chosen for their award or contest. And just those disappointments that we’re talking about and most kids, they don’t know how to navigate those. So we really want to support them to learn how to separate events and things that happen from, in their lives, who they are as a person, so that they can move forward feeling empowered, and use that as a learning experience from which to grow.
Gloria Grace Rand: Have you, and it may be too soon, or I don’t know if you’ve thought about this, but may be tracking some of the kids that you first started working with 13 years ago and see how they’re doing today?
Renaye Thornborrow: I love that question because a lot of our coaches, we have some coaches that have been with us for multiple years and some have even raised their kids using Adventures in Wisdom, using our curriculum. So we haven’t formally tried to track it, but we do have a few testimonials from some of our coaches who used our work with children. In fact, one of our coaches who’s in Australia, not too long ago shared that for her sons who are now late teenagers, they were surprised to realize that most children don’t know this way of thinking. They don’t know that they can choose their thoughts and that by choosing those thoughts, it’s gonna shape their experience of what’s going on in their lives. Then, it just is so natural because they were raised on it and then, of course, my own children were raised on this as well. And they’re not perfect. I’m not perfect by any means. I’m just so proud of the young adults they are. I mean they’re both juniors in college and when they went off to college, which is right in the middle of the pandemic, and had all these challenges to deal with, they had skills to help navigate them and of course we were in constant communication, but I never worried about them. I knew that they were going to be able to navigate this and reach out for support when they needed it. So, yeah, it just, it would be fun to go back and see if we can get some data points. One of the things that’s interesting about the way our coaches use our curriculum is that our coaches bring who they are to their coaching.
Renaye Thornborrow: So they have all kinds of backgrounds, like I mentioned, some might come from an education background, some from counseling therapy, some from different kinds of life coaching, some. And when they do their coaching, we don’t dictate how they work with children. Our curriculum is a tool on their toolbox. It guides. We have something called the story coaching process because we have a coaching story, discussion, questions, activities and review sheets, that kind of thing to kind of guide the development of the skills. But they can bring their own stuff into it. You know, some of our coaches are trained in EFT, some like to do breathing and meditation and yoga. So no two coaches really coach the same. So it’s hard to get any kind of like quantitative response, but qualitative, we have all kinds of success stories on our, our website that, that share the journeys and the transformation that our children have experienced by going through this work with the coach.
Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah, well I, I can imagine because just to be able to have those skills in, like you said, you know, in your toolbox, the tools to be able to do that is gonna set them so far ahead of, of kids who don’t have that advantage. And so even if as you say, you know, kids are not perfect, we as humans are not perfect then, and they’re not gonna, you know, they’ll still have probably some issues that’ll come along, but at least they will have that foundation. And it’s just as important as being able to read and do math and everything else because it’s social skills are gonna serve them when they’re adults and when they’re working in the world and raising families of their own. So,
Renaye Thornborrow: Absolutely Gloria. And when you get the, this foundation of mindset skills and ability to be able to navigate those challenges in life, it supports children in all areas of their life. From the academic to the, relationships with friends at home, siblings to extracurricular activities and achieving their goals there Absolutely. All areas of life. And that’s why we, we talk about it being that missing link in children’s education because it is so needed across all areas of the life.
Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah, for sure. As you, you yourself are a coach, you’re, you’re an entrepreneur and I like to find out sometimes about you, you know, personally, what has been, what’s been maybe one of your challenges that you’ve had to work through over the years?
Renaye Thornborrow: That wow so many , , you know, doing this for, 12 years now, we’ve been certifying coaches for 10. Wow. You know, my company now is very different from the one that I started and even the certification program that wasn’t part of the original plan. So a big, I think some of the biggest challenges, there’s actually been two, and one is a, a lesson learned which can support people who are on this, who are watching, who are entrepreneurs as well, especially if you have an online business. One was the technology technology challenge that we had about three and a half years ago. And that was, we were attacked by bots. And when the bots hit, it destroyed what’s called our email reputation. It’s called email deliverability as a whole. So if you ever, all of a sudden clients are saying, I can’t, I’m not getting your emails, or you know, all of a sudden your, your business grinds down to a halt check email deliverability, cuz it literally took us over two months to even figure out what was going on.
Renaye Thornborrow: Cuz I’d never even heard of such a thing. And we’d been a hundred percent online for about seven years at that time. So we were able to get that turned around, but it was so painful, so, so painful, Gloria. I mean, it set us back, it was a hard hit from a timeline, from a people perspective as far as the impact on us and, and monetarily as well. But we were able to get things put in place, get safeguards in place as well. So that’s, that’s one. And then the, the second challenge is really in figure out the best way to build team because the more you’re serving and, and growing, you can’t do it all by yourself. And so it’s getting the right, right team members in place, but then that also balances, you know, how you find your team and making sure that you’re supporting that.
Renaye Thornborrow: And, you know, COVID was hard on us and what was really painful for us was we had the technology issue. We were just recovering from that and Covid hit. And so that was, you know, another couple of years. But now that Covid is luckily looks like it’s calming down and we’re learning to live with it as, as we do with the flu and other things, you know, we’re recovering from that. So now I’m looking at, okay, how do I build team now and better support our coaches, just to support them to be even more successful within their lives. But one thing I have learned about being an entrepreneur, I mean, I think that being a parent, being an entrepreneur are two of the biggest personal development exercises you can ever go through in your life. that mean it has just been something else.
Renaye Thornborrow: I had no idea it would be just, it’s, it’s constant ability to be resilient and to bounce back and to just keep going. And your vi our vision gets to be bigger than the circum circumstances we’re dealing with because we’re out there blazing a new trail and things are gonna pop up that we’re not even aware of. So we’ve just gotta learn how to take that punch, get back up right away, learn from it, adapt and move, keep moving forward because visions our vision. You know, for me, I know this vision’s too important to let these big setbacks put the dream on the shelf.
Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah. Let me, I’m gonna ask you to expand on that a little bit because I know it’s, it’s one thing to say, okay, yeah, you’ve gotta learn to roll with the punches and be able to be resilient. But what does that look like in practical, practical terms? So what, what are maybe, you know, one thing that you, you’ve done that you can rec recommend other people can do?
Renaye Thornborrow: Yeah, well we actually have something that we call the bounce back formula and I’d be happy to share that with you and just kind of help you understand a little bit about what, how to build resilience. Yeah. There’s actually steps that we can take. Okay. We actually have five Rs for, for building resilience and then as part of this bounce back formula. And the first thing is, Gloria, before we even talk about that, I think that the mistake that most people make, and I think I even made becau in the beginning, is that we think that success is gonna be kind of like this straight line arrow, you know, going 45 degrees up. And of course as entrepreneurs you have the infamous hockey stick. Some people like to see that, but in reality, success is starting at one point and it’s a roller coaster, you know, maybe up and down even backwards and loops and you know, just a lot moments and just hopefully you’re still trending up towards your goal.
Renaye Thornborrow: But I think that’s the biggest mistake that some people make. And I think that when you’re, what I found anyway is when I’m in a more structured environment, like a corporate environment where there’s so much support and structure and things already working in place, it was a smoother line. But as an entrepreneur, especially building something brand new man, the roller coasters have been there for sure. So that’s one thing is just to realize that life ain’t a str straight line, right? It’s just not . Okay. All right. So I hope you’re not an English teacher. I know you do copywriting so you can cross off my ain’t . Alright, so what happens is, is when we experience a big setback, and let’s just talk about the big stuff because if we have the skills and the big stuff, we can handle those little bumps in the road.
Renaye Thornborrow: So whenever we have a big situation that happens, you know, it hits the fan, right? The first thing we need to do is reset our brain. Because what happens is, is when we have one of those o x moments is that our brain will shift from the frontal lobes where critical reasoning occurs into our amygdala, which is where fight or flight. And we’re like whoa. And we can’t even think straight, right? And that’s why we can’t even try to solve a problem when something has just happened. So the first thing we need to do is we need to calm ourselves down, reset our brain. And one thing that everybody can do is just set your hand on your heart and take five really slow, deep breaths because it’s going to reengage the parasympathetic nervous system, help calm us back down and get us back into our frontal lobes.
Renaye Thornborrow: And for some people it’s additional processing. It can be going for a workout, journaling, phone a friend, just something to really support you in moving through that. And by the way, it’s okay to have a pity party. It’s okay to be upset about something and just have a little hissy fit. The thing is, is just keep it short, right? Keep it short so that you’re processing it and then allowing yourself to move into our next steps there. And so the next thing you wanna do is reframe what happened because events in life are neutral, but we as human beings define them as either good or bad based on how we choose to think about ’em. So at Adventures in Wisdom, we teach kids to put on their power goggles. And what that means is to look how can, is to ask yourself, how can I look at this in a way that empowers me?
Renaye Thornborrow: And we actually have fun kind of art project creative activity for kids is they can practice scenarios putting on their victim goggles where they’re looking at a scenario from a neg kind of negative or victim standpoint and then their power goggles where they can practice looking at the same thing from an empowered standpoint could be something like failing a test or you know, losing a ball game or just, you know, and for us it could be like a failed launch. So, you know, looking at that is the next thing we want to do. So because our thoughts are really shaping our experiences, right? Then the next thing we need to do is we need to kind of remap what is it that we’re wanting to do. So first is ask yourself and get connected with your why. Why is it we’re going on this journey in the first place?
Renaye Thornborrow: And it’s one of the reasons why vision boards can be so powerful is cuz it helps us stay in touch with our why. And sometimes for people when they take a big hit, they might do an evaluation, decide this isn’t important to me anymore. But for most people, once they’ve had a chance to settle down, get back into their frontal lobes, it is still important. So we’re needing to remap. It’s like, okay, well how, where, where do I go from now? Where do I go from here? How do I map my plan? And what we wanna do is map out what that plan is, what are our next steps going to be? Cuz that gets our brain in action and we start building what we call neural pathways within our brain to say, okay, this is how I’m gonna get there. So it helps calm us down cause we know what our action steps are gonna be.
Renaye Thornborrow: And also triggers another area in our brain that we call the reticular activating system, which is what we call our internal radar to start looking for things at both a conscious and subconscious level to help us make our dreams come true and achieve our goals from there. Right? So, and then what we need to do is reprogram our brain. And this is, you know, reprogramming our brain is, okay, we have this new marching orders, this is where we’re wanting to go. We reprogram our, our brain with our positive self-talk visualization affirmations so we can strengthen those neural pathways over and over again because, you know, our vision gets to be bigger than our circumstances. We get to have our dreams. But the thing is, is we have to know what that path is. We have to program our brain to see ourselves as already achieving our goals of being successful. And then the last one is to just be restart, be in action because action builds confidence. So those are kind of the, the five Rs there of stepping through. So you want to to, you know, calm that brain down, get in touch with your why our dreams get to be bigger than our circumstances remap what our path is gonna be, be in action on it. Building those neural pathways and creating confidence along the way.
Gloria Grace Rand: I love it. Those are really great steps and if you’re listening to this, you know, and you don’t have a piece of paper and pen handy, go back later and listen to it again because you’re gonna wanna definitely take, take notes on that. Cuz I think all of those steps are perfect and that really do work to help you to be resilient. So thank you for, for sharing that. You know, I wanna ask you one other thing and cause I, I’d love to ask our guests about this sometimes too, and I think this will be hopefully, you will have something that will resonate or, or be able to enlighten our audience is what’s a commonly held belief, let’s say about perhaps life coaching that you passionately disagree with?
Renaye Thornborrow: That life coaching is for grownups, , , we’re missing the boat. We need to start when kids are young for sure. But then, you know, to take it beyond that about, you know, about life coaching, it really is, I think it’s important to understand where it fits within the mental health continuum because a lot of times people don’t quite understand what it is or how it can help. And when you look at mental health on a continuum, on one side you have mental wellness on the other side you have mental illness. Now counselors and therapists tend to focus on the mental illness side and kind of work their way towards the, you know, mental wellness. But they’re assessing, diagnosing and treating more serious mental health issues. Life coaches are really focusing on that mental wellness side. It’s all about being proactive and it’s supporting people and learning how to be proactive in developing their self-esteem, their confidence, the resilience.
Renaye Thornborrow: We were just talking about self leadership skills and setting and achieving their goals. I mean, research shows that people who are goal oriented tend to be mentally calmer and happier and have stronger mental health. Same thing with people who express gratitude. That’s a mindset skill that we teach kids is about gratitude. Same thing with visualization. It’s a mindset skill. And I think that that when people understand that self-esteem is a skill, that self-confidence is a skill, that resilience is a skill that can be developed that is so empowering and that kids can develop these skills at a young age, I need to change the world.
Gloria Grace Rand: Mm-hmm. Yeah, that’s for sure. I I love that. What are you curious about right now?
Renaye Thornborrow: Oh wow. You know, I’m always curious about human behavior. I’m always curious about even, you know, myself and, and how I respond to the world. I’ve just recently been reading Byron Katie’s work, you know, loving what it is, which is really good. I wish I’d had it three years ago, when the, when the crap was hitting the fan and everything else I navigated. And it, because it’s just so, it’s so powerful. It just because I’m not always the calm, perfect responder of all things that I would love to be, you know, I still get triggered faster than what I would want to be. So for me it, it really is curious about taking these skills even deeper into my own life. I mean, we’re always in the work and I’ve been doing personal development work, work literally for decades and I still have work to do. So that really is what I’m curious about is, you know, how do I, how do I do better at that? For sure . Yeah.
Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah. And that’s, that’s one thing I wanna remind our audience cuz I know this has come up in, in the past before and, and I’ve, and I, it’s a lesson that I’ve learned as well is that we’re never done. You know,
Renaye Thornborrow: We’re never done, right.
Gloria Grace Rand: , we’re, we’re always, and, and, and, and we really shouldn’t want to be, because then I think that means we’re ready to check out. And as long as we can continue to, to learn and to grow and, and to know that there will always be opportunities sometimes for us to learn and grow even if we don’t necessarily want them, right now, your, you know, resilience skills to be able to learn how to, to manage some of that thing those things. Because that’s the one constant in, in life is that it changes
Renaye Thornborrow: It does change. And I’m always telling myself, Renaye, but on your power goggles, Renaye, I mean all the work that we use with kids, the skills we help them develop, they’re their mindset skills, they work for us too. Oh yeah. And so, you know, and it’s nice to have, you know, child friendly terms that we can use on ourselves. It’s like, Renaye, give yourself a gold heart. It, which is, you know, talking about the positive self-talk, treating myself with the self-respect, it’s a journey for sure. ,
Gloria Grace Rand: You know, if it would be interesting just, just for giggles too, you know, one day perhaps you might consider doing this is like, do offer the curriculum, the kids’ curriculum for adults just to be able to give them a chance to go through it. Because so often, and again, this is speaking from experience, something that I, because of how I grew up, I I was always very serious and, and forgetting that there’s a lot of joy in, in being a kid and, and to remember and, and tap back into some of that stuff. So it’d be, it’d be kind of fun experiment to see how adults would react to, you know, the stories and things and as you say, you know, handing out a gold star or something
Renaye Thornborrow: . Yeah, well you know, it’s really interesting about that and I was one of those serious kids too, you know, miss responsibility and I still am. And working on bringing that joy and that fun and, and play, you know, into life. It’s like, it’s, that’s another one of my, my challenges in life. But we’re all, we’re all kids inside of us and especially when we’re under stress, then we really revert back to our kind of automatic programming, which is why the work that we do is so important. And the work you do is so important as well. But some of our coaches do use our work with grownups.
Gloria Grace Rand: Oh do they?
Renaye Thornborrow: Yep. Some of them do, but absolutely cuz what happens, Gloria, you know, what makes our work so unique is that we use stories written in a fable format to help people develop these skills, help children develop these skills. Stories are such a powerful way to evoke change because it en, it en engages multiple areas of the brain from the logic to the emotional, to the physiological. It enables children and us as adults to see situations that they might face through the characters and situations with stories they don’t feel threatened. Yeah. And this, the types of languaging that we use enables children to learn how to express what they’re thinking or what they’re feeling in ways that aren’t threatening. So for example, two of the terms we use are called grungies and dragons. Grungies are how we’re feeling negative feelings, you know, feeling off dragons are the negative thoughts, our thoughts create our feelings. Most kids don’t like to talk about being angry or being afraid or being scared. Yeah. But they love talking about grungies and then we talk about finding the dragons that are there and then how we can, you know, what we call slay the dragons through shifting our thinking, wearing our power goggles. So it really is a very powerful way to support children in developing these skills. And our brains work the same way. We learn so much better through story than we do by reading or hearing facts.
Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah, that’s for sure. Because I, I remember well, and, and this was just even learning and, in copywriting that facts tell, but stories sell, right? But it’s also because this is how we communicated before we had the written word is, is through oral tradition and just the stories. So this goes back thousands of years. So I think we’re we’re hardwired in to be able to respond to stories. So I love that. I love that some of the coaches are, are using those with a, with adults as well. Is there anything else that I haven’t asked you that I should have perhaps or any other last point you’d like to make regard to?
Renaye Thornborrow: Wow, you know, we’ve covered a lot here. You know, that we’re just really working to spread the word that life coaching is transformational for children. And if anyone here is, is watching and you have children in your life or you know, someone with children in, in their lives who really wanting to support children and being who they were meant to be in the world and seeing their magnificence and going for it in life and reaching their fullest potential, you know, working with a coach could very well be something that they can support their child in making those advances. And if you know someone who, who loves working with kids and maybe they’re looking for a career change or even a side business life coaching for kids could be a wonderful way for them to do that. But most, most of our coaches will start on a part-time basis and then move into a full-time basis. So just really helping us get the word out that this is out there. Our children have never needed these skills more, I mean, they’ve really been through a rough, rough time in supporting them, in developing these resilient skills and really proactively developing mental wellness is so important. And we want parents to know that this is an option for their children and that there are so many things we can support kids with long before counseling is ever needed. Yeah. And just helping parents know that life coaching for kids is part of the solution.
Gloria Grace Rand: And someone, let’s say a parent listening out there, can they go to your website and, and find like a coach? I mean, do you have a a, a directory or something like that?
Renaye Thornborrow: Yeah, absolutely. So our website, Adventures in Wisdom.com, up at the top we have a tab that says for parents and we have a directory there, but we also have a form called Connect with the coach. So a parent can actually fill out the form and say this situation, how old my child is, what I’m looking for in the coaching. And then our coaches who have availability can respond to that parent and then the parent can talk directly with the coaches and choose someone who they think is gonna be the best fit for their family.
Gloria Grace Rand: Oh, perfect. Well good, I’m glad I asked that question. Excellent, thank you. All right. So it’s a adventures in wisdom.com right? And they’ll be also able to get the, the free resource you mentioned earlier as well, right?
Renaye Thornborrow: Yes. So up at the top is another tab that says free story. That’s where anybody can download the free story and, you know, download today, have story time tonight, and then we’ll have another tab that says, be a coach if anyone’s interested in learning more about our coaching program.
Gloria Grace Rand: All right. Excellent. Well, this has been very enlightening for me and I’m, and I’m sure our audience will benefit from it and, will be checking you out and I’ll make sure to have all of your information in the show notes as well. So thank you so much for spending some time with us today. I really appreciate it.
Renaye Thornborrow: Thanks for having me, Gloria.
Gloria Grace Rand: Oh, and I wanna also thank all of you for listening and for watching. And if you’re watching on YouTube, make sure you like and subscribe to our channel so you’ll be able to hear future episodes and I think that’ll do it. So until next time, as always, I encourage you to go out and live fully, love deeply, and engage authentically.