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Dangers of High Potency Marijuana with Laura Stack

This episode of Live. Love. Engage. (pre-recorded LIVE on Facebook) features mental health advocate and founder of the non-profit Johnny’s Ambassadors, Laura Stack. After losing her son Johnny to suicide, Laura embarked on a mission to educate parents and teens about the dangers of today’s high-potency marijuana on adolescent brain development, mental illness, and teen suicide.

On this episode of the Live. Love. Engage. Podcast:

  • How Johnny’s life transformed after using marijuana
  • Why Laura believes High-THC marijuana caused her son to commit suicide
  • What’s different about marijuana being sold today, compared to 20 years ago
  • Why European countries treat high-THC marijuana differently than the U.S. does
  • What parents and kids need to know about dabbing
  • The steps parents can take to ensure their children stay safe

Connect with Laura:
Non-Profit: johnnysambassadors.org
Email: Laura (at) JohnnysAmbassadors.org
Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/JohnnysAmbassadors

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[00:00:00] Gloria Grace Rand: You’re listening to the live love engage podcast on today’s show. We’re going to be talking about high potency marijuana and its relationship to mental illness and teen suicide. Stay tuned. I am Gloria Grace Rand, founder of the love method and author of the number one, Amazon best seller live love, engage- how to stop doubting yourself and start being yourself.

[00:00:30] In this podcast, we share practical advice from a spiritual perspective on how to live fully love, deeply and engage authentically. So you can create a life and business. With more impact, influence, and income. Welcome to live love. Engage

[00:00:52] Namaste and welcome to a live edition of live love. Engage. We are recording this on Facebook. It’s also going out on my YouTube channel as well, and I’m delighted to have a guest with us today. Her name is Laura Stack. So first off before I tell you all about her, I just want to welcome Laura to live. Love. Engage.

[00:01:15] Laura Stack: Thank you, gloria. I appreciate being here.

[00:01:17] Gloria Grace Rand: Well, I appreciate having you. And, this is going to be a bit different episode, I think, than we normally have, because it’s really about raising awareness, to a topic that, I wasn’t aware of.

[00:01:32] So, so let me tell you a little bit about who Laura is. She is the founder and CEO of a nonprofit called Johnny’s ambassadors. And her mission is to educate parents and teens about the dangers of today’s high THC marijuana on adolescent brain development, mental illness, and suicide. And she’s also written a book about this, which I’m going to talk to her about that as well in a second, but, she’s really on a mission to you know, really help parents.

[00:02:04] So the recipient of the drug free America foundation’s, Moxie award for protecting youth from substances, as well as the leadership and advocacy award from the national speakers association. So I thought we’d start off. By you sharing your story about what, what prompted you to have to start. And I’m saying really have to start this non-profit that you’re doing.

[00:02:29] Laura Stack: Yes, have to start thanks, Gloria. I really appreciate the opportunity. And, I would probably say that when most of your listeners here, you read my introduction and hear you say about the harm of today’s high potency marijuana. And that many of them said, what’s the problem. That’s not true. Marijuana is natural.

[00:02:51] It’s harmless. It’s a, it’s a healing herb. It’s legal. It’s, it’s no problem. I used to use it, when I was a kid right on and on. And I, I do want to tell you right from the start that I hear you, that I was the same way, and that is why I’m here. Colorado was the first state to legalize recreational marijuana in 2012.

[00:03:16] And my son, Johnny was 12 years old at the time. And when it came out in 2014, he was 14 and was a freshman in high school. And that was when he smoked his first marijuana. And. I only know that because he told me, we were very close. I was his person. Johnny was a very, happy, charming, outgoing, busy young man.

[00:03:45] He, he played cross country, ran track. He played the piano and the guitar. He had a brown green belt in karate. He we’re a Christian family. He was raised in the church. We taught Sunday school for many years. He was extremely intelligent. Had a 4.0 GPA had scholarship to Colorado state university after getting a perfect sat score in the math portion.

[00:04:13] So, you know, just a young man with everything going for him. And I do need to tell you he didn’t have any mental illness. We don’t have any mental illness in our family, any history of psychosis. This is a state where. Colorado uses a lot of marijuana and he has a friend who lives down the street, who will be nameless, who has at the time, a big brother who was 18, which in Colorado is the magic age, because you can go to what we call our pot shop docs. And they’re very well known who they are and they charge you a few hundred dollars between three and $500, depending upon the doctor and the teens just make up, they have a migraine or a backache or some sort of debilitating condition. These are not the children who actually need medical marijuana, just so you know, and they get their medical marijuana card and that entitles them to legally walk into any of our dispensaries and buy marijuana products and then they sell them to their, uh, their classmates, in high school and middle school. Sadly one in 10 of our middle schoolers here in Colorado is addicted to marijuana. And Johnny came back from the party and told me that this friend’s big brother had marijuana and that they all wanted to try to get high.

[00:05:36] And he had used it. Now I used marijuana when I was in high school. I think many of us did. You know, I’m not prude. I’m not like it. Wasn’t like anti-marijuana. I just, I told Johnny and my other two children also, you know, do not use drugs, no substances, no alcohol, no smoking, no marijuana. Like that was the rule.

[00:06:02] I didn’t use it myself. I didn’t like it personally. I used it a couple times in high school, but what I didn’t know, and what I said to myself in my head was, oh, thank God. It’s just marijuana. Hm. That’s where I was so wrong. And I didn’t know it. I didn’t know. I was wrong. I hadn’t been into dispensary in, since I wasn’t in ever.

[00:06:26] We got it from, you know, it was ditch weed. I don’t even know where we bought it. It was. And back then, you know, my perception and I’m 52 was, you know, you had a paper and you put in some grass and, you know, would have some stems and some seeds like that real great stuff, you know, and you’d roll it up and you’d smoke a joint. Like that was what I thought about marijuana. And I thought to myself, oh, you know, I used it. I’m fine. It’s just marijuana. Kids will be kids. Right. That began a five-year journey of hell of my son and his addiction to marijuana, which sadly ended by his suicide. In November of 2019, he became extremely paranoid.

[00:07:15] Very delusional. He, he thought that his phone was listening to him that his college dorm room was bugged, that the mob was after him. And sadly, he jumped off a six story building, running away from the mob. So I am on a mission to educate parents about today’s marijuana, which I didn’t even know for four years after he first told me he had tried it about concentrates and about dabs.

[00:07:53] I’d never even heard of dabbing. I didn’t know what that was. Right. Because my mindset was flower. So Gloria, that’s a couple of things I want to tell you about today. First that botanists took the plant. Which in our day. Okay. So let’s go back to when we were young

[00:08:14] Gloria Grace Rand: The 60s, the seventies

[00:08:16] Laura Stack: Seventies eighties, nineties, two thousands into 2015.

[00:08:20] Okay. So if you’re more than 25 years old, this is probably news to you. botanists cultivated the plant too, so that the THC tetrahydrocannabinol Delta nine, THC, which is the psychoactive. Chemical in marijuana that makes you high. That used to be two percent to five percent in the joints that I was thinking of, right?

[00:08:48] Where you feel like giggly and everything’s fine. And you go eat Denny’s at two in the morning, right? That’s that was my mindset. And now it’s very common in Colorado. You can walk into any dispensary. This is not black market. This is not on the street. These are not illegal grows. Right. This is legal marijuana.

[00:09:09] 30% THC in today’s marijuana. One grower is even bragging that he’s created a 40% THC marijuana flower. Okay. So this is just the plant. So first of all, we have to understand the plant. Anything above 10% is considered high potency. It’s very strong in the UK. They call this skunk, they have the 30% strains in the UK and in the Netherlands, for example, anything over 10% is illegal.

[00:09:41] It’s considered a narcotic, it’s a hard, hard drug, just like cocaine. So that’s the first thing. The second thing that people need to understand is they figured out these chemists are so smart in the United States that you can take a plant and you can run butane through it. Now how someone would figure this out.

[00:10:02] I have no idea, but you can put butane through it or propane or ethanol, or pick your solvent and it will break off the trichomes on the non pollinated, female, bud of the marijuana breed of the cannabis plant genus. It breaks off the T the trichome that has the THC and that raw chemical and. Solvent kind of get filtered into a tray and they toss the plant.

[00:10:33] Okay. So the plant in today’s designer, marijuana products doesn’t even exist. There’s nothing natural about the marijuana that’s being used now. And then they take this concentrated THC solution that looks like a kind of sticky bronze earwax looking substance wax. Right. And they can further process and distill these, the concentrated, extracted THC into other products.

[00:11:09] And they tend to name the products by how they look. So there’s crumble. That looks like a cookie there’s shatter that looks like an Amber Glass there’s sugar. Wax like rosin. There’s crystal. There are myriad new fangled marijuana products. And guess what? Gloria? The minimum, these products are are 60% THC

[00:11:39] Gloria Grace Rand: Holy cow!

[00:11:40] Laura Stack: 80% is not uncommon for a concentrate. The oils that the kids are vaping that they’re just telling their mom, but mom, I’m just vaping. Okay. Your kid’s not vaping nicotine. They’re using very potent THC oil, right under your nose. I had no idea. These products don’t smell. You can’t see them, the vapors are dissipated.

[00:12:09] They hide them in their pockets. So the oils, the shatters, the waxes, the broad term is called dabbing because you just take a dab. The serving size is like a pinhead and you touch it to a red hot surface. If you will, Google marijuana dab rig. You’ll see what I’m talking about or Google marijuana image, shatter or wax.

[00:12:43] And you’ll see if you have not been into a dispensary in the last. Five years. You have no idea what the kids are out there using these vapes, these dabs, and then they take the distillates. They’re really pure, pure oils and they put them into products. They make suppositories. The boys are going to school high.

[00:13:09] Oh yeah. I, I, Gloria. It’s it’s so shocking. When you finally, I just remember just going, what is this? What is this? I was so, and I consider myself a relatively educated person. I mean, I’ve got an MBA. I’ve been in business for 30 years and I had no idea. And that’s what I’m on a mission to do, because I didn’t know.

[00:13:42] It’s an, it’s an explanation, but it’s not an excuse. I didn’t know marijuana was different. It is literally like apples and oranges from when we were using it. It’s the difference between cocaine and crack it’s so potent, so strong, like a joint is about 20 milligrams of THC, a dab just dab is a hundred or more milligrams of THC equivalent.

[00:14:15] A cart. If you buy a cartridge, a vape oil, which a gram of that, let’s say it’s 80% oil. So if you do the math, now you have 800 milligrams in one vape cart. So all day long, they’re hitting. And if there’s 200 servings in a cart and 80%, you got 800 grams. That’s every time they hit it, they’re getting four milligrams and they don’t just do these little puffs.

[00:14:43] They do right it’s before school. It’s right. Driving to school sadly before class, after class. Right. All day long, the kids are high.

[00:14:57] Gloria Grace Rand: That’s crazy

[00:14:57] Laura Stack: parents don’t understand. We have formed brains. So it’s not as big of a deal when adults use it. Not that there, there is no guarantee that marijuana will be harmless for anybody.

[00:15:11] I have a 51 year old girlfriend who lives on the east coast, who came and visited here, went to lunch with a friend of ours, hit her dab pen twice and was in a mental hospital hallucinating for two weeks, thinking that the staff were shape-shifters. It was. It was literally crazy. You just, you can’t, you can’t even believe that this is happening and it is unregulated.

[00:15:37] It’s completely legal. I mean, they get their med card. They’re 18. There are 4,000 18-year olds in Colorado with med cards. And guess how many 17 year olds there are 170. Oh, so like overnight 4,000 of them developed a debilitating chronic condition. Right? Right. So we are just on a mission to get the word out about how potent the marijuana is, how dangerous it is for our youth until the age of they’re saying about 25 for women, 30, 28 to 30 for men, the brain continues to form.

[00:16:19] Gloria Grace Rand: Right.

[00:16:19] Laura Stack: And sadly, because the THC molecule. Mimics a molecule in our bodies called anandamide, which is sanscript for pure bliss. It’s the, it’s like the runner’s high. And it’s what makes you feel happy when you feel love? When you’re at a party, just feeling good. That’s what THC tricks the brain into thinking.

[00:16:42] It’s what it is. And it allows it to bind into one of the receptors in our brains called CB one and in doing so it blocks. Our natural anandamide from being able to get in there. So the body goes, oh, well, we have enough. So it stops producing it, which makes the teen need more and more just to feel normal.

[00:17:04] This is in that all of the psychiatrists, you know, handbook they use called the DSM-5 it’s called cannabis use disorders – CUD. And it doesn’t leave your body for three weeks. Right? If you get drunk, you drink alcohol, you feel really crappy. The next day you hang over. Well it’s out of your body in 24 hours, THC stays for three weeks.

[00:17:30] And so even kids who go, oh, I just use it on the weekends are completely addicted to it. And sadly, because it affects the prefrontal cortex. It shows in MRI studies that it thins the prefrontal cortex in teens who use it. There was a study done of 800 teens between the ages of 14 to 19. And depending upon how many times they’d use marijuana, they had thinning of their prefrontal cortex.

[00:18:00] CB one receptors are all over the brain. They’re in the amygdala, which normally regulates emotion. So with these huge amounts of potent THC, getting in there now it causes extreme anxiety, acute paranoia, fear, feeling that people are looking at me and everybody knows me. It’s a very specific set of symptoms and a five fold increase in psychosis what’s called CIP cannabis induced psychosis. And if they get an incident of that, they will be in the hospital because you will want to call 9 1 1 because your kid will be saying crazy things, possibly belligerent, possibly violent. Uh, we have a board of directors, a scientific advisory board of MDs at Johnny’s ambassadors.

[00:18:54] And one of our doctors, Karen Randall. Is an emergency room physician in Pueblo, Colorado. And she says every day there are teens in her emergency room with episodes of acute psychosis of intoxication off the charts. Sometimes comatose, unconscious, vomiting uncontrollably, acute poisoning in children who eat these edibles.

[00:19:24] And sadly, if they don’t stop using that psychosis can convert to something more permanent, more Schizoaffective disorder or schizophrenia-like. That they never would have had, it’s not genetic. And there’s a criteria called the Bradford hill criteria that has met the definition that marijuana causes psychosis in adolescents who use it later on in life.

[00:20:01] Wow. And sadly, a seven fold increase in suicide.

[00:20:04] Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah. And I know it that’s been documented. I mean, really it’s like over the last few years there’s been this incredible increase in teen suicide

[00:20:16] Laura Stack: Thousands of teen suicides. Peer reviewed journal studies. Yes.

[00:20:18] Gloria Grace Rand: Do you know why they, these producers have made these concentrates so strong, has there been any research in that or is it just money?

[00:20:30] Laura Stack: Oh my gosh. It’s so expensive. They charge so much now. They, you know, they don’t, they don’t like to call them potent. They like to call them pure. Right. It’s all this really terrible messaging. Cause they want you to believe it’s, it’s just big tobacco all over again. Gloria it’s our products are safe and harmless and natural and no they’re not addictive and no, they don’t cause psychosis in children.

[00:20:52] Right. As we look the other way, they are laughing at us in Europe, over here in the U S they said our children are just a big Petri dish. and we just have. In Denmark just came out with a study, 7 million people in Denmark because it’s a closed socialistic country, right? So they can study just the 7 million people in Denmark.

[00:21:14] And they said, definitively that in 1995, they had a 2% incidents of schizophrenia in their population and that in 2010, when they took the data again, they had an 8% incidents of schizophrenia in their population. Guess what? The only thing that changed. Marijuana was introduced into Denmark and they removed all the co-morbidities such as psychosis in the family, prior mental health people who are currently depressed.

[00:21:43] Right? So the research has said it’s probably higher, but they said for certain we know in Denmark that our population has gone from two to 8% schizophrenia in that time period because of marijuana. The research is there. The, the marijuana industry must addict the children because addiction is an adolescent onset disease.

[00:22:08] Their primary users are 18 to 24, 4%, 4%. Gloria of our users in Colorado buy 65% of the products. Think about that 4% of the marijuana users buy 65% of the products. They, they don’t care about the 85 year old little granny. Who’s eating a gummy for her arthritis every day. Okay. That is not, they need the very addicted all day, every day, heavy dab, right?

[00:22:44] High tolerance users who have a complete addiction to this, right? So they are coming after our kids. There is blatant marketing to them in Colorado. I have a collection of ads, social media posters, flyers, newspaper ads, where they’re directly marketing to young people. And because it’s legal. For adult use, right?

[00:23:12] Gloria Grace Rand: Right.

[00:23:13] Laura Stack: Many parents, sadly think it’s safe. And in the pandemic, sadly, some parents very well-meaning. Have given their children, marijuana thinking, oh, they’re anxious, poor babies. I’ll give them marijuana. And it makes it worse anxiety actually, counter-indicated for marijuana.

[00:23:34] Gloria Grace Rand: So, so what can, what can parents do? What do you, what do you recommend? What do they need to do?

[00:23:39] Laura Stack: Well, the first thing is get educated, right? Whether you go to our website, Johnny’s ambassadors.org, go to a dispensary. Get online read. I mean, you will be shocked. I will send you photos if you don’t, if you can’t. I mean, they’re everywhere. Just Google marijuana, concentrate image.

[00:23:56] So do your research understand why it’s a different drug, why it’s so potent, why it’s so harmful and then you have to approach your children. What do you know about. Dabs. I, if you ask your child, do you know what dabbing is they will know and you’re going to be, you’re going to be, you’re going to, I didn’t even know what, how do you know?

[00:24:14] Because they all know they don’t, they don’t really want the parents to know. Right. Because they’re doing all the oils and the dabs and edibles and the suppositories and the tampons and the drops and the inhalers and eye drops in the net. You, any orifice you can put THC in the manufacturers have figured out how to put it in.

[00:24:32] Gloria Grace Rand: Wow.

[00:24:32] Laura Stack: So talk to them, have a conversation around it. If you ever suspect any drug use drug testing is recommended there they’re very inexpensive, reliable THC tests that you can buy on Amazon. What don’t you trust me? Well, this is a way that I know that I can continue to trust you. Always charge their phone in your bedroom overnight.

[00:24:54] That’s where they’re getting in trouble, is at night on Snapchat on the, on the apps. And in the free rise only, that’s where it’s being sold and keep those lines of communication open. You know, what do you know about, about this? Do you know anyone who uses it? Have you used it? I mean, ultimately what we have to do is, you know, get past the drugs are bad.

[00:25:16] Don’t do drugs, you know, they don’t respond very well to that. Teach them the science talk to them about the changes that happen in their brains. They only get one brain, right? If they goof it up, you know, lowers memory, IQ, motivation, poor outcomes in life. I mean the list of consequences go on and on and on.

[00:25:38] And there are no studies that show any benefit to today’s high potency THC on teens at all, there are none because they don’t exist, but there are thousands and they can find them on our website that show the negative consequences.

[00:25:54] Gloria Grace Rand: What about I, you know, can, can also like, What about like advocacy, like, you know, talking to like our lawmakers, cause you know, they’re supposed to be there.

[00:26:04] Laura Stack: We did that. We just passed a bill. We just passed a bill a few months ago, Colorado house bill 13, 17 regulating marijuana concentrates. In fact, most of it just went into effect on January 1st. Putting some guard rails in place. You know, we’re never going to get the horse back in the barn, right?

[00:26:22] Marijuana legalization in Colorado is a foregone conclusion. It’s not going to be repealed and we can limit access. We can ensure that 18 year olds now have to see two doctors. We can lower the limits on how much 18 year olds are allowed to buy. We can put in real time tracking. So there are all kinds of things that you can do on a legislative level, even when marijuana is legal in your state.

[00:26:47] Cause they said, oh, that could never be done in Colorado. We have, we, our coalition was led by a woman named Dawn Reinfeld and she put together students, you know, actual teens to come and testify. Parents like me. All right. Medical people, school professionals, healthcare professionals. And we gave nine hours of testimony on the harms that our families and children have experienced and it got passed and they said it, it couldn’t get done.

[00:27:14] And it did. So you can definitely do some advocacy on your local level as well in terms of access and putting guardrails in place to protect our youth.

[00:27:25] Gloria Grace Rand: Awesome. I mentioned, I just realized, I mentioned at the beginning that you had, you also wrote a book about this. Tell us just a little briefly about what that

[00:27:33] Laura Stack: well, I mean, after Johnny died, I was still just reeling with what happened.

[00:27:38] I mean, and then COVID started, it was. Anyway, it was a horrible time. And my for-profit businesses are all in speaking and training, so they kind of shut down. So I found myself with a lot of grief and a lot of time. And so I just sat down and started writing. I’ve written eight books before this. So I know the process.

[00:27:58] So I wrote 300 pages before I forgot anything about Johnny’s life. And I told the entire story went back, gathered doctor’s notes, and I mean, all of the treatments and medical, mental health stays and, you know, his diagnosis was THC abuse, severe, like that was his diagnosis just going through and detailing for everybody what happened so that they can recognize it.

[00:28:22] So I wrote the dangerous truth about today’s marijuana, Johnny Stack’s life and death story, and it has 176 scientific notations so that people don’t think, you know, this is reefer madness, to, to show the science, the research of the harms of today’s very high potency THC, and what it does to adolescent brain development, sadly turning it into many mental illnesses and unfortunately suicide.

[00:28:50] We have right now at Johnny’s ambassadors, 196 parents of children with cannabis induced psychosis currently in the United States. And that’s only the ones that know about us. You know, there are thousands right now of parents whose children are very, very sick as a result of using these dabs.

[00:29:09] Gloria Grace Rand: Well, I appreciate the work that you’re doing.

[00:29:11] I’m sorry that you had to, you know.

[00:29:13] Laura Stack: Thank you

[00:29:14] Gloria Grace Rand: be brought into this in such a way. Cause

[00:29:16] Laura Stack: I didn’t know. And I don’t want anybody else to say, I didn’t know. I, you know, I want you to know and, and we just cannot have any teens following Johnny’s path. We have to get them to stop dabbing.

[00:29:29] Gloria Grace Rand: Absolutely. So, where can someone get some more information?

[00:29:34] I think you actually did mention, but you have a website that people can find out about it.

[00:29:37] Laura Stack: All on our website. Johnny’s ambassadors.org, two n’s in Johnny, no apostrophe and two S’s in ambassadors. Johnnysambassadors.org. Everything is there. Everything is free. This it’s all based on donations from our very generous donors, you know, videos, webinars, toolkits, anything that you need to really get educated.

[00:29:59] The research is all there is it, it takes a long time to get through it all. But my email address, Laura, at Johnny’s ambassadors.org is on that site too. So feel free to reach out to me if your child is in trouble. We do have a list of providers that we partner with that can hopefully get them some help.

[00:30:16] Gloria Grace Rand: Oh, that’s good. Awesome. Well, I have been educated today and I really appreciate you being on the show to educate our audience, and hopefully we can you know, start paying more, number one, paying more attention, and really doing the research, as you say, and, and understanding. We need to make some changes.

[00:30:36] And so it starts first by talking to our kids, finding out what they’re doing and yeah. Do that research because it’s just it’s mind boggling to me.

[00:30:46] Laura Stack: And it doesn’t, you know, it doesn’t affect everyone. Certainly, you know, we don’t say everyone who dabs is going to get mental illness. But you just don’t know there’s no test.

[00:30:56] There’s no way of knowing. You don’t have to have a genetic predisposition. You don’t have to have a current mental illness. Johnny was not depressed, or neglected or unloved. He was a victim. He was used, he was very addicted and he’s a child. I mean, their brains are hijacked anyway when they’re teens. So we have to get out in front of this as parents and protect our children and that’s our main job to keep them safe.

[00:31:20] And this is not safe. There is no safe level of THC in the developing adolescent mind.

[00:31:27] Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah, absolutely. All right. Well, thank you for all the work that you’re doing. I appreciate you being here today on the show and I will definitely make sure I’ll have the website in our show notes as well. For those of you who are listening to this and, Just, you know, do be active, be proactive.

[00:31:46] Don’t just assume that everything is okay, because

[00:31:49] Laura Stack: You may be shocked. Don’t ever say not my kid. Cause I get too much of that too.

[00:31:54] Gloria Grace Rand: Yeah, that’s true. It it’s even, even the brightest kids, you know, cause they like to experiment or, and, and there’s peer pressure, you know, and all, all of this stuff, please,

[00:32:03] Laura Stack: they have to be ready or they’re going to go to that first high school party.

[00:32:06] And someone’s going to say here hit this. And they need to know what that is and good refusal skills. So that’s what you have to teach them.

[00:32:14] Gloria Grace Rand: Absolutely. Who knew that we’d have to be, you know, longing for the good old days when it was just a joint to smoke. You know,

[00:32:20] Laura Stack: Just week. Yea, no more of that. That’s out the door,

[00:32:22] You can’t even buy that anymore. It just doesn’t exist.

[00:32:29] Gloria Grace Rand: All right. Well, thank you again for being here and thank all of you for watching. And who’ve been watching live on Facebook and on YouTube. And for those of you listening, I will let you know that starting next Wednesday. I’m actually going to be moving the time. When I do these live recordings, we’re going to be doing it at 11 o’clock in the morning.

[00:32:49] Because thankfully the internet behaved itself, but a lot of times it doesn’t behave itself in the evening. So I thought I’m going to move it up earlier in the day to make it, make it better. And, if you join us next week, I’m going to have, actually, my guest is going to be Tasha Chen, who is the founder of the science of getting rich academy.

[00:33:06] And she has a new book called Deservingness. I’ve read it. It’s awesome. And it’s about helping you to be able to get what you want. So until then until next time as always, I encourage you to go out and live fully love, deeply and engage authentically. Did you know that a majority of entrepreneurs tend to discount the importance of their work and a good number feel their success is simply due to luck. I know from personal experience that self-doubt can keep you from having the kind of life and business you desire. That’s why. Created a free guide called uniquely you how to move from self-doubt to self-love in four simple steps to claim your free guide. Go to live love, engage.gift that’s live love, engage dot G I F T.

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About the Author
Known as The Insightful Copywriter, Gloria Grace Rand is also an inspirational speaker, author and host of the Live. Love. Engage. podcast. Prior to launching her SEO Copywriting business in 2009, Gloria spent nearly two decades in television, most notably as writer and producer for the award-winning PBS financial news program, “Nightly Business Report.”

Gloria turned to writing as a way to communicate, since growing up with an alcoholic father and abusive mother taught her that it was safer to be seen and not heard. But not speaking her truth caused Gloria problems such as overeating, control issues, and an inability to fully trust people. After investing in coaching & personal development programs, and studying spiritual books like “A Course in Miracles,” Gloria healed her emotional wounds. Today, she helps entrepreneurs develop clarity, confidence and connection to the truth of who you are, so you can create a business that has more impact, influence and income!

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