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Accountability and Leadership with Bella Cruz

Among the many qualities that define a good leader are integrity, empathy, vision, and positivity. Executive leadership coach and keynote speaker Bella Cruz believes accountabilty is another key factor. In this interview, Bella discusses the book she has written which outlines the top 10 traits of an accountable leader.

This week on the Live. Love. Engage. Podcast:

    • Bella shares one of the top accountability behaviors leaders need to know about
    • How business leaders can build employee morale
    • The importance of compassion when it comes to leadership skills
    • How to build trust with your employees and why it pays to listen to them

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Gloria: [00:00:00] Namaste. Welcome to Live. Love. Engage. I am Gloria Grace Rand, and I am as always delighted when I have a guest on the program with us. And today I have a wonderful lady that I have met recently actually through a book program that I just joined to help me to working with a publisher, to finally get my book done and out there. But. That’s a story for another day. In the meantime, I want to welcome Bella Cruz to the show. She is the founder and CEO of Bella Cruz Consulting Group. She’s also an Amazon international best selling author, motivational keynote speaker, executive leadership coach, and consultant. And there’s more just wait because she’s also John Maxwell team member, a credentialed master trainer. And. And the lady knows her stuff because she’s also educated. She’s got a master’s degree. So I’ve got a really smart woman on the show today. And I know she’s going to be here to share her brilliance with us all. So first off, welcome Bella to Live. Love. Engage.

Bella: [00:01:14] Thank you, Gloria. And thank you so much for having me here today. I’m really excited.

Gloria: [00:01:19] Well, we are excited to have you, and one of the things that you have done, and again, this is sort of how we connected, um, is through a book publishing and you have a new book out as. For those of you who are unfortunately listening, you won’t be able to see this, but if you’re watching on YouTube, she has a lovely banner back there with the picture of her book, her Amazon bestselling book, it’s called Accountability Performance, A High Performance Coaching Tool for Leaders. So what is all of that about open? There, there is the book itself. Yay. I love it with you on the cover. Awesome. So what is that?

Bella: [00:02:00] I’ve been doing what I do for about 30 years now. And I have been working with everybody, you can imagine, any company from the frontline to the executives. I’ve worked in the military.
I wasn’t in the military, but I’ve worked with, uh, you know, executives in the military, uh, military people, sergeants, but I’ve also worked in corporations. And what this book is about is about accountablility and, you know, great companies. They, they, they have a lot of great leaders. But a lot of people, a lot of the leaders just don’t want to talk about accountability. They, great leaders sustain their employees, but leaders that may need some coaching. They don’t always do that. They, and you know, nobody wants to talk about accountability because they see it as conflict.

Gloria: [00:02:52] Huh. That is so strange. I would not have imagined that, because I know at least now see, I don’t, I don’t work for a corporation. I’m a solo business owner, but I know how important it is to number one, to be held accountable when I want to be able to get something done. And you’d think that, um, accountability in the workplace is something that would be important if they want things to get done. So, um, there’s probably been other books written about this, but maybe, maybe if you can expand on it a little, a little bit about maybe even why there is a resistance towards this and what, what makes your book and your experience with accountability different?

Bella: [00:03:34] Well, I, I have been, like you mentioned, I’m an executive coach, so I’ve, I’ve coached a lot of leaders, but I’ve also conducted many, many workshops. Uh, you know, in my life time, I have my own consulting firm, but I’ve conducted many, many workshops and I’m also a speaker. And one of the things that comes up all the time is accountability.
And, you know, an employee is not going to go tell their boss, Hey, you know what, you’re not doing things so great or you’re not connecting with me. And so one of the things that I’ve done is I collected all these feedback from the workshops. I’ve done surveys. I’ve done a lot of interviews, but with leaders also because they have bosses and I came up with 10 top accountability standards of behaviors that help the leaders connect with their employees.

Gloria: [00:04:25] Well, that’s good. Can you give us an example, maybe like what would be one or two that are important?

Bella: [00:04:31] Yes, actually, I’ll give you a couple. The very, you know, a lot of, uh, a lot of the surveys came back and the number one, the number one accountability standard of behavior is not having favorites. It’s amazing how so many leaders, and sometimes they don’t do it intentionally. They just go to the, go to person. Then you get it to them faster. Right. And it starts creating, a lot of chaos within the, within the team. And so what I do is I’ll, I selected the accountability behavior. I gave some stories, for example, There is one where an employee came into the HR and she was literally just in tears saying, please fire me, fire me, fire me. I can’t stand working here, fire me. I hate my boss. Can you imagine that? And then you have another story where you’re talking about someone and I witnessed this, myself, this great leaders having a huddle in the middle of an office and everything is flowing very smoothly. You can tell that, you know, they’re very open and transparent about their projects and what’s going on. And at the end I found out that she’s retiring. So they’re going around the circle saying great things about her. And this one employee says, “I’d take a bullet for her.” So, how do you transition from the leader that somebody’s wanting to get fired from their job? Can you imagine? It’s horrible. I don’t know about you, Gloria but I’ve worked for a couple of bosses where I just didn’t like getting up in the morning. So, you know, it was, it was, it was, you know, very hectic; torture is going to work. And then you get to the employee where everybody likes being there. You know, they’re actually engaging with their employees. So the accountability behaviors that I came up with, well, with the team, with all the people in my 25 years of experience in doing surveys, And the interviews and everything. This is feedback directly from the employees on how they want to be held accountable because it really tells the leader.

Gloria: [00:06:42] Yeah, that’s true. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I think there, there are a lot of circumstances where people will that are afraid. And, but that does, I think start though from the atmosphere, or I guess the, um, maybe a level of trust, even that the, that the leader is showing people, because if they’re just focused in on bottom line results and not really, and they don’t care whatever way that happens and that’s going to be a problem that it’s not really going to help people to feel like they can even, you know, confide in them or, or, or even as you say, even ask to be held accountable. Is that something maybe that you’ve found? I mean, I’ve, I’ve, I’ve worked in a few organizations, but, um, thankfully I’ve only had really one horrible, horrible boss at one point. And that was very early on when I first started my career.

Bella: [00:07:36] Yeah, no, it really is. It’s a process of engagement. And you know, when you, when you’re a leader that can do that and you know, the employees are engaged. What most leaders don’t understand is you know, that they’re going to get all the ideas and all the solutions come from the employees cause they work with their clients. But a lot of leaders are so busy going from meeting to meeting, to meeting. And, you know, as a leader, Gloria, you know, anyone out there who’s a leader. Sometimes people get promoted because they do a great job, but they never train them to be a leader. And when you become a person that goes into that role, you really have to know how to engage your employees because they’re the ones that are gonna make you successful. Cause you can’t do it alone. And they’re the ones that have so many ideas and you don’t know how many enterprise problems I’ve worked on. I’ve had a leader say, I can’t believe my employees came up with all those recommendations. And I asked them, did you ask your employees for feedback? do you do leadership rounds? So those are things that a leader really needs to do to engage with their employees.

Gloria: [00:08:46] Yeah, absolutely. So who do you think, who would you say is the best person or type of person to buy this book? Is it the employee? Is it the leader or maybe both?

Bella: [00:08:58] Well, this book is definitely a high performance coaching tool for leaders. Of course. if you worked in a corporation, whether it’s a small one or a large one, whether you’re an international intrepreneur, you know, anyone who’s working with employees and the, you know, especially if you have a team or if you’re an employee that wants to become a leader, that’s also a great book to read. And this book also Gloria, it’s a great book. Not only as a great read. To know those accountability standards to connect with the employees so you can create trust within the, within the team. But this book, you can also use to create your standard operating procedures. Uh, and you can incorporate some of the information in the evaluations. If you have new and existing leaders in each training, you know, for policies, those are the things and the characteristics that a leader needs to be held accountable to be the accountable leader, because accountability starts with the leader.

Gloria: [00:09:59] Yeah, absolutely. Because they are accountable for whatever it is that they’re, they need to get done. And they’re, they’re part of the organization. So they’ve gotta be able to demonstrate to their bosses, I guess, too. They know that they’re getting stuff done. So it is important. So yeah.

Bella: [00:10:16] Yes. You know, one time I experienced it, um, there was, you know, a leader’s not, you know, they have to be, they have, I always tell people, you know, when you’re a leader, it’s like being in a stadium full of people.
And you’re the main attraction, no matter what you’re doing, whether you’re a great leader or someone who needs some coaching. Everybody’s watching and they’re keeping score. So if you have a favorite, now the attention goes from doing your work to watching what the boss and the favorite are doing. And sometimes it’s not intentional, but those were the kinds of things that you’re, you’re teaching the leader. There’s also other things like, for example, how are you going to react to an employee when there’s a crisis? One day I was walking down the hall and there was a, an employee and she was a young lady.
And I happened to know that she was a single parent and everything, and she was in tears and she was white and she, was white as a ghost. And she was crying. She was crying with her heart, you know, she was really crying. So I stopped her. I w I don’t want her to get in her car. Cause I knew that she was not in a state to get in her car. So I asked her what’s wrong. What’s wrong? She says I’m getting evicted today. She’s getting evicted. She says, ” I dunno what to do Bella. I don’t know what to do.” So I immediately, you know, told her just, you know, calm down, let’s see what we can do. I took her to the director who was in charge of that building organization. And the leader was very compassionate and totally, you know what, yeah, we’re going to get, you know, let’s look for some resources for you and things like that. You know, we need you to go home because we don’t need you to be here right now. You need to go home and take care of this. But before she left he was on the phone, calling people to see what they could do for her. Do you think that people weren’t going to hear about that? So leaders also have to prepare for those kinds of things, not just everyday work. How are you going to handle it? Yes. I’m not saying you have to write a check for them, but how are you going to treat that employee when they’re at their lowest. You’re going to have to deal with something like that. And people are watching you. They’re going to see how you handle it. She came back to work. And let me tell you that that leader, he was already respected. Cause then you had to connect with the employees, but there was more loyalty there because he took the time to try to help her.

Gloria: [00:12:47] Yeah. It’s so important. And, and it really is. I think I’ve, might’ve had somebody else on the podcast at one point talking about this, but I know that it’s so important for leaders in particular to recognize that you know, you’re, we are all human. We are all connected. And if you want the best out of the people working for you, it does require actually paying attention to the people, working for you. And, and so it it’s, you know, it’s listening and, and trying to pick up on cues. And I know there’s a lot, uh, can be a lot, but it’s going to serve your organization in the long run a lot better if you can really engage people and help themand, and be open and willing to provide assistance in any, as you say, it doesn’t necessarily mean direct financial assistance, it could be just pointing them in the right direction and where to find resources.

Bella: [00:13:46] Right.

Gloria: [00:13:47] Yeah, so that’s great. At least you were able to steer her and help her out in that situation. And so important.

Bella: [00:13:55] Now leaders have to have compassion also because those moments are going to come and people are going to watch how you handle it. But at the same time, they also have to know how to make decisions and, you know, be consistent about it and make sure that they understand who is in your organization and what the policies are, and to recognize your people, because that also makes a great leader. I worked with managers, they don’t even know where the organizational chart is, they don’t even know executive leader. If they walk in the room, down the hall, you know, uh, in these huge companies. And so, you know, those are the things that I talk about in the book, you know, that we, I show them the, the not to do you know what not to do as a leader. But also some of the things that they can do to become that accountable leader to gain that trust.

Gloria: [00:14:45] Yeah, absolutely. And I would think too that, I mean, obviously you do a lot of work with, uh, you know, you’ve worked with large companies and things like that, but there are leaders in every aspect of life. I mean, you could be a leader in your, um, spiritual community, even a leader in your family as well.
So I would think I have, uh, I suspect that probably even some of what you talk about could be useful in those respects too, or. Tell me if I’m wrong or right there.

Bella: [00:15:15] You’re absolutely right Gloria, because you know, whether you work for a big company or a small company,
you’re dealing with people. So the people are the, are the people that help you get to what you need to do, you know, they’re the ones that work with the customers. They’re the ones that have the solutions. They’re the ones that they get the complaints, and a leader who just goes to meetings or is so busy with their everyday work and doesn’t talk to the employees, doesn’t ask for their opinions. Are there, you know, what do you think about this?
You know, two great questions I always tell leaders to ask in leadership rounds is one, go around and say hi to everybody. You don’t have to do it every single day, but do it a few times a week or at least once a week and ask them, Hey, you know, how are you doing today? What’s working well for you? Well, they’re going to tell you, Oh, I’m working on this and this and that. Well, you know, what could we help you with? Or what’s not going so great that when they tell you, you have to make sure that you’re documenting that, you know, write it down and show them respect by writing it down. And you’d be surprised how many of those ideas you can actually implement and go back and change to make your organization and take it to the next level.

Gloria: [00:16:32] That’s good. Yeah. I definitely believe that. Yeah. because that is again, that’s those are the people that are dealing with things anyway, and you, and, and that’s who you really want working for you, I think also is like the best leaders know that they, they have, they’ve got certain strengths and weaknesses, but if they hire people who are working for them, who can, number one have the opportunity to come up with great ideas and, but also have those ideas nurtured, to be listened to. And because, I know I don’t have all the answers and that’s why I would want to surround myself with other brilliant people who do and not to be afraid of that. I think maybe sometimes that is what happens though.
I think maybe, sometimes leaders are afraid their employees are going to out shine them, but does that really happen?

Bella: [00:17:24] No, a leader should be one that wants to take their employee to the next step, to have them promote it, or to help them go where they need to, to develop their potential. And you know, whether you work in a restaurant because you know, people they’re working with customers, how are you going to make your restaurant better?
They’re the ones that are telling them, you know, whether you work in a restaurant, whether you work for a construction company, whether you work for a global company, any kind of company, if you’re working with employees, I guarantee you that an accountable leader, someone who, who takes time to be consistent and do the right thing and, and, and use the 10 top 10 accountable behaviors, like not having, not having favorites and that you’re communicating things to them before changes happen and, you know, giving them feedback. They want feedback even when they need to be. Uh, improving on something they want to be told so that they can start steering them in the right direction. All of those things employees want to know, and it doesn’t matter what industry you work in, because you could be in the front line, you know, serving ice cream or, or serving, you know, fried chicken. It doesn’t matter. Or you could be in your preparation, leading teams, you know, several teams. It doesn’t matter. Those people that work for you have great ideas and solutions and they just want to be respected. And if you do that, they will be so loyal to you and take you to the next step.

Gloria: [00:18:51] That’s awesome. Well, I want to change, not really change gears, but maybe just talk a little bit more about the work that you do. And so how, cause you are like a leadership coach and consultant. So what do you find, um, the most fulfilling about the type of work that you do?

Bella: [00:19:10] I love working with people and I love helping them, uh, find their potential.
Sometimes they get so busy in what they do every day, that when you know, you, you get to coach them or you get to have a workshop with them, or you have a seminar, whatever. I love working with people because. You know, to help them find their potential, their purpose, help them get unstuck. That’s what I love to do. You help them get unstuck because when you’re working in your everyday routine every day, sometimes you just get too busy, but I love helping people get unstuck.

Gloria: [00:19:42] That’s awesome. What types of clients do you work with and what…

Bella: [00:19:45] All kinds of clients. I’ve worked with people that I worked in schools and I’ve even, I’ve even had conversations with students, you know, things like that. And I worked with people in construction. I worked with corporations, healthcare, you know, uh, chambers of commerce. And I also speak internationally and nationally. So I get to meet some amazing people. But one thing that everybody has in common is that everybody wants to be validated as a person.
It doesn’t matter what country you’re in. It doesn’t matter who you are. They want to be validated as a person. And when you can do that as a human being, you’re going to connect with people and it’s gonna make their life a lot better.

Gloria: [00:20:32] Awesome.

Bella: [00:20:33] And your life too.

Gloria: [00:20:34] Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Have, have you found, um, is there a been maybe one particular, um, Stand out experience like with a particular client and they just had, um, you know, results that just maybe even pleasantly surprised even you or, or, or, or, or just something where it was, it was a really, you were like, “Yes, I’m so happy that that happened.”

Bella: [00:21:02] Yeah. I think that, that one of the greatest things that, that happens in my work is seeing someone evolve. So it happens so much. If you just, if you just communicate with them and, and you know, you really connect with who they are and find out what it is that is preventing them from moving to their next, uh, the next level or their potential.
Now I will tell you, I think I had, I worked with a client who, um, who was a very, very hard leader to work with I guess. They had a revolving door. A lot of them do, you know, not a lot, but a lot of them do when they need to be coached. Right. I’m not saying every, every, but we’ve all met them. Right. Well, first, once I started working with them, I understood what was happening and it always comes down to their communication and their delivery. It’s just self-awareness. I mean, if, once you start communicating with someone, you have to be careful with the delivery and you have to make sure that you’re aware and you have to plan some of the things that you do. And sometimes it just. Just do things so quickly without thinking everything they say comes across, like, let’s get it done right now, right now, right now. And those are the things that you become self aware of.

Gloria: [00:22:32] Okay. How I’m just, this just popped in my head, you know, as we’re recording this, I just started this podcast. It was nice in December, everything was great. And now of course, here we are in 2020, and we’re in the middle of a pandemic. So is there, have you found maybe still, even in either meeting people or talking with other clients, are there any particular special challenges around the time, you know, dealing with leadership in particular, around in this environment that we’re living, things were so crazy, frankly. And so uncertain. That would be, I think

Bella: [00:23:14] there’s a lot of uncertainty and you know, of course when this first started, it was really, really scary, but it’s, it’s still scary, you know, they haven’t found a cure for COVID yet, but, um, I think the biggest thing right now is everybody is trying to find out how to do everything virtually. They have so many employees working from home and some employees have never done that. But they’re also discovering a lot of great things like, wow, you know, maybe I might not need this space anymore, or they’re fine. They’re finding out new ways to reach their, their business clients and also to work with the employees as well. So even though this is a very difficult time and there’s a lot of challenges, there’s also a lot of new discoveries.

Gloria: [00:23:58] Absolutely. Well, have you come across anything that you you’ve noticed and in particular, or just sort of in, in general? Cause I do know that I think when we are in something like this, it is definitely opens up opportunities for people to come up with all sorts of new ideas and things that they might not have otherwise.

Bella: [00:24:19] Yeah, no, I know that, you know, there’s, I know that the, you know, people like that are having these kinds of meetings, like the software, like zoom and just, you know, education itself, all the parents that have to now be at home with their children. Can you imagine all the people that are, that are now working to create all these online?
Uh, you know, classes not only for elementary, middle, and high school, but also universities. There’s a lot of online stuff, but everybody is, is really turning virtual like this, just going to be a new way.

Gloria: [00:24:55] Well, and I do think that this is one, one of the blessings, if you, if you can, when we can use that word of, if it had to happen now, um, is that we do have technology has making it possible so that even though we’re disconnected physically a bit from our normal activities, that we can still connect with people virtually, which is good because, um, I do, I know I do have a lot of friends who still though, you know, miss, like hugging.
You know, it’s like, you know,

Bella: [00:25:28] I’m, I’m definitely…

Gloria: [00:25:28] …just like we have to do these virtual hugs now. And it’s like, ok…

Bella: [00:25:32] That was so hard for me because I’m a hugger. And I know that when, when I meet somebody, I, you know, I just tell them I’m a hugger and I can see on their face whether they are or not. So if they are. Yeah, I’ll give them a hug, but if they’re not, I’m like ok… But I’m a hugger too, so that’s… that social connection connection is I really miss that.

Gloria: [00:25:53] Yeah. Yeah. Well, hopefully it’ll somehow we’ll be able to manage. Better soon. I hope so. Um, I wanna talk with you, maybe one other thing that subject to touch on, because in addition to, you know, people listening to this recording are just going to say, wow, you know, she’s, she’s a real high performance type person really involved with executives and things, but you also have a spiritual side to you.
And I know that you’ve written a book about spirituality. Can you share a little bit about what that’s about and maybe even what what prompted you to that type of book as well?

Bella: [00:26:32] Yeah, one of the greatest things, I think that most of us realize that we really have to nurture our mind, body, soul, and spirit. So when it comes to spirituality, you know, everybody has a I’m sure you know their God, I, my God, I have my God and I tell you what if it wasn’t for my relationship with God I know that I wouldn’t be doing what I do and understanding so many things that that can move you into new dimensions. Every day that I spend time with God, it gives me new wisdom. It gives me new inspiration. You know, I opened like for me, my, in my faith. Uh, I opened my Bible and I could read the same scripture forever. And it it’s, it’s a, it’s a different teaching every time. So I have written two books that are Christian books that are on Amazon. And these books are for the Christian faith and they are about how to get into heaven because one of the things that I have been very blessed to do is I have been able to tell people about my savior and how you get into heaven. And there, you will not believe Gloria, the questions that come up, like how, how do you know, why do you have to, why do you have to pray the prayer of salvation? You know, why do you have to do that? Why do you have to pray to Jesus? You know, how do you get into heaven? All these very simple. Very valid questions. Um, you know, I answer in my book how to get into heaven for your salvation it’s also in Spanish. And so it helps people, it gives them certainty that they are going to go to heaven. And that is what that book answers is. How do you get into heaven so that they won’t have those questions?

Gloria: [00:28:19] Awesome. So has, um, I take it that probably spirituality has been a big part of your entire life, but, what really did you feel like a calling to, to actually kind of do that? And then, you know, sort of, sort of like God not tapping on your shoulder and saying, you know, I think you, I think you’ve got something to share and I’d really like you to get this message out for me.

Bella: [00:28:43] I think that I discovered for sure is that when you’re gonna write about something, you’re usually already doing it right. I had this itch to lead people to the Lord. Anywhere I go, to the store, you know, I’m on vacation wherever. I just need to strike up a conversation. And for some reason, this topic would come up and there we were praying, right?
Yes, I did get, you know, like a, Hey, you know, it’s not like me and you were talking, but I did get, you know, like this vision that I should write this book, but it took me like 10 years to do it. Cause I, I didn’t believe that I could I do it, you know, I’m not perfect. And I mean, it kept coming and it just wouldn’t go away. And I tell you when God wants you to do something, if you say no, he’s going to keep letting you know that that’s what you’re supposed to be doing. And first, at some point, if you don’t do it, somebody else will. And that’s not, I don’t want to do, I don’t want to disappoint God. And he tells me to do something. I mean, I I’m guilty. I don’t, you know, I don’t always do it right away. I have sometimes I’ll have questions, but that first time was really hard for me. Cause I didn’t believe that I would be chosen to write a book like that.

Gloria: [00:29:55] Yep. I can totally relate because I felt the same way when I got the urge to write a book myself and it was back in the end of 2016 and you know what, I’m still like working on it now because I was the same way. I was like, Uh, no, I’m not, I don’t. Why would I write a book about love when I deal with marketing? You know, that’s, that’s my specialty. I’m not, but yeah. It’s like people and things kept happening and, and so it was like I was being led to now you really need to, you know, pursue this. So, um,

Bella: [00:30:27] You’re pretty good at love then because that’s what it is. You’re just great at it.

Gloria: [00:30:33] Thank you. And I bought it would like to say, share this experience too, though, for anyone out there who might be in the same situation. Like they’ve got this idea about writing a book, but maybe, maybe they’ve even started it, but they haven’t gotten to it. And they’re afraid that other people out there will tell the same story. Well, There probably are people out there telling the same story, but they’re not telling it the way you tell it. And so I’m glad that you still went ahead and wrote the book because there’s only one Bella Cruz, and there’s only her interpretation of how you can lead people to have in that is based on, you know, I’m sure how you were brought up and, and the, and the beliefs that you have come to. And, and so like what I’m writing about, it’s like, I know there’s other people, like way more successful and, and people that I look up to out, out there. And, but, but I did realize that it’s like, no, it’s, this is going to be for my, how I’ve come to know this information and there’s people out there who that will resonate with it. You know, it’s not going to be for everybody, but the people who are meant to hear it are going to hear it.

Bella: [00:31:47] No they were in, I had all, I had all kinds of questions before I wrote my book and I just, I just didn’t believe that it was for me, but I finally did it. And now that I have done it and it took me so long to do it, I realized now that as I’m writing new ones that, you know, You were called to do that. And, but it’s always going to be about something that you already know how to do. So that’s, that’s a great thing. You already know how to do it and you’re right.
There’s so many people out there. I know my book is not the only book out there about, you know, leaders. There’s so many great leaders out there. Oh my goodness. I mean, there’s so many books out there from great people that are leadership experts. But mine will touch a different audience and your book about love. Can you imagine that’s a universal principle, Gloria? Oh my God. Love is a universal principle. What a great assignment you have love, I mean, who doesn’t want love in their life, right? Absolutely. I know I do.

Gloria: [00:32:56] Well, it’s a higher love. It’s not about actually finding, finding your soulmate. It’s not, that’s a different type of place.

Bella: [00:33:03] I have my family that I love and I really, I mean, who doesn’t want love, you know, appreciate it. It’s a great topic, I can’t wait to get it. So how far are you? Are you almost finished with your book?

Gloria: [00:33:18] I went through and did sort of a rough, rough, rough draft, but not back in creating a sort of new rough draft. It’s a little bit more cohesive. So I’m probably not quite halfway through that right now, but making I’m making progress. So, Oh yeah.

Bella: [00:33:35] Well, it sounds like you’re almost done with it. I’m really excited for you. Is this, your, this is going to be your first book?

Gloria: [00:33:41] Yeah, the first book that I’ve written by myself, I’ve been in other author compilation type books. I’ve written chapters and before, but this is the first one with just my name on the cover.

Bella: [00:33:52] What a great accomplishment. Oh, get ready. Cause I’m sure you’re gonna write many more after this.

Gloria: [00:33:58] Actually. I probably will see that actually, but anyway, let’s, let’s get back on track. We’re getting sidetracked. And I would like to, I think, sort of close out maybe first off is, is there anything else that you feel is important that you would like to share with our audience? Whether it’s on leadership, whether it’s, um, you know, anything, spirituality, whatever, anything we haven’t talked about yet? Is there anything else?

Bella: [00:34:30] Well, when I want to do is I want to leave people with just knowing that you know, that they have a purpose in this world and, you know, Pursue your passion, because you were created that before you got here and you already have all the skills and talents you need for that. You might need to develop some of them, but once you start stepping into that passion. You’re going to, your work is going to become a different, you’re going to be at a different place. You’re not going to be in a place where, you know what I have to do this, or I have to go to work, you know, who wants to say that everyday? You know, Oh God, I have to go to work or I know…, yes. We all have to work hard in everything, but there is just a different attitude a different feeling when you’re actually flowing in your destiny and you’re flowing in your passion. And there’s great joy in that. And not only that, I heard one of my mentors, Paul Martinelli. He says, if you find your purpose, you’re going to find your audience. And if you find your audience, they’re going to write the check for you.
So, you know, and not only that, it just gives you great, great joy to be doing what you’re doing. So pursue what it is that you, that you. You were doing, continue to do it, grow in it, developing and share with others because it’s, that gift is not just for you. And if you’re saying to yourself, I have to do this, or I have to go to work, then see your spiritual being because God created you with a gift that you will touch the world and you won’t be that type of attitude where you say everyday, Oh, I have to go to work. You’re going to love doing what you do. That’s what I want to leave you with pursue your passion, pursue your destiny, because that will bring you great joy.

Gloria: [00:36:24] Absolutely. I couldn’t agree more. That is absolutely true because I do believe that God didn’t create us here to be miserable. No God created us to, to love, to experience joy and, and so work needs to be joy. If it’s, if it’s not then start thinking of, you know, trying to figure out what it is that you really, really like to do and figure out ways to start moving towards that. Even if you have to, you know, earn money to bring in, to put food on the table, sometimes we have to do that.

Bella: [00:36:58] Yeah. And you can transition to, I mean, we’re not telling you stop your job today and then what the heck are you going to do? You know, no transition to it. If it’s something you’re not doing, do it part time, you know, grow into it and then transition out of your other, other job, it will happen. Believe me, it will happen. And it’ll be great. It will be great.

Gloria: [00:37:22] For sure if someone’s listening to this podcast or watching us on YouTube, um, and want to be able to learn more about you and maybe, maybe work with you or hire you for a speaking opportunity, um, what would be the best way for them to contact you?

Bella: [00:37:40] Well, they can go to my website at And one of the great things that I’m going to do for your audience today is if they, if they, if they really I’m going to give them five great things that will make you a great leader, that you can start working on today to improve your leadership style, maybe you’re great already, but it doesn’t. It’s just a great thing to always have something to have as a, as a reference. So it’ll be a documentation, you know, just a. Top five, you know, do it, just do it, just do this is going to help me connect with your, with your, uh, with your employees. I just do it to become a great leader to be, to continue with your great leadership style.

Gloria: [00:38:26] Awesome. All right. Well, I will have that information and I’ll have the link to that in the show notes. So not to worry. And, um, so I so appreciate you being on our show today. Bella. Thank you so much. It was great to learn more about you. I know we’ve, we’ve talked a couple of times, but it was great to really learn.

Bella: [00:38:45] Thank you for having me here today,

Gloria: [00:38:48] and, uh, I appreciate all of you listening and watching the show. I really I’m very grateful for you. And if for some reason you just happen to tune in and caught this by, um, I was going to say mistake, but now there are no mistakes. You were inspired to somehow click on this link and you’re not a subscriber yet.
I hope that you will subscribe to the podcast on the platform of your choice. And until next time as always, I encourage you to go out there and live fully, love deeply and engage authentically.

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About the Author
Known as The Insightful Copywriter, Gloria Grace Rand is also an inspirational speaker, author and host of the Live. Love. Engage. podcast. Prior to launching her SEO Copywriting business in 2009, Gloria spent nearly two decades in television, most notably as writer and producer for the award-winning PBS financial news program, “Nightly Business Report.”

Gloria turned to writing as a way to communicate, since growing up with an alcoholic father and abusive mother taught her that it was safer to be seen and not heard. But not speaking her truth caused Gloria problems such as overeating, control issues, and an inability to fully trust people. After investing in coaching & personal development programs, and studying spiritual books like “A Course in Miracles,” Gloria healed her emotional wounds. Today, she helps entrepreneurs develop clarity, confidence and connection to the truth of who you are, so you can create a business that has more impact, influence and income!

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